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Oct 16, 2012 16:32:40   #
jadancey (a regular here)
 
Well, I did it. I decided to learn to knit Cat Bordhi's Sweet tomato heel and spent most of yesterday working on it. I had trouble figuring out how to close the gaps coming up the right side, kept getting spaces. I must have ripped it back 3 or 4 times and I watched Cat's video 6 times. After much muttering and trying, I finally finished it. And guess what, I Did Not Like It. So pulled it out again and I'm back knitting the old heel flap and gusset. Has anyone else have this happen to them? At least I can say I knew how to do it.
 
Oct 16, 2012 16:38:12   #
Yarngrandma
 
Just wondering what you did not like about it, I have yet to try it.
Oct 16, 2012 16:41:11   #
Yarn Happy
 
Yes, I did the same as you, and in the end did not like the heel, did not like the loose loops on the inside. Now I use the fleegle heel from the KnitFreedom site, great, no wraps, no thank you moms, just simple increases and decreases. Check it out.
http://knitfreedom.com/free-patterns/toe-up-sock-patterns
Not the Faux-heel (have not tried this one yet, think it has some wrapped stitches), the other one.
Oct 16, 2012 17:04:14   #
jadancey (a regular here)
 
Yarngrandma wrote:
Just wondering what you did not like about it, I have yet to try it.


Just didn't like the look of it and also had a few loose loopy stitches. It also felt too big not snug around the heel like the one I usually do.
Oct 16, 2012 17:06:35   #
Yarngrandma
 
I have only done 3 pairs of plain socks, and have a lot to learn, I appreciate your comments, thanks!
Oct 16, 2012 19:24:03   #
kaixixang (a regular here)
 
My main objection to the Sweet tomato heel is that you need 2/3's of the stitches for the turning. Not always possible when you're doing a base-12 amount of stitches.
 
Oct 16, 2012 19:27:51   #
Yarn Happy
 
kaixixang wrote:
My main objection to the Sweet tomato heel is that you need 2/3's of the stitches for the turning. Not always possible when you're doing a base-12 amount of stitches.


I had forgotten about that, I did mine 2 up on magic loop and that part was not very easy to readjust the stitches.
Oct 17, 2012 02:50:25   #
realsilvergirl
 
The STH for my foot and many others you have to do two full wedges then half a third wedge. So it fits. If i so 3 full wedges=no good!
Oct 17, 2012 03:15:13   #
realsilvergirl
 
See cat bordhis ravelry page....she answers questions and you can post pix of your stuff
Oct 17, 2012 05:49:04   #
Clelita
 
Yarn Happy wrote:
Yes, I did the same as you, and in the end did not like the heel, did not like the loose loops on the inside. Now I use the fleegle heel from the KnitFreedom site, great, no wraps, no thank you moms, just simple increases and decreases. Check it out.
http://knitfreedom.com/free-patterns/toe-up-sock-patterns
Not the Faux-heel (have not tried this one yet, think it has some wrapped stitches), the other one.


I also use only the Fleegle heel. Not only it's very straight forward, it looks very pretty.
Oct 17, 2012 07:38:14   #
Sabyzmum
 
Clelita wrote:
Yarn Happy wrote:
Yes, I did the same as you, and in the end did not like the heel, did not like the loose loops on the inside. Now I use the fleegle heel from the KnitFreedom site, great, no wraps, no thank you moms, just simple increases and decreases. Check it out.
http://knitfreedom.com/free-patterns/toe-up-sock-patterns
Not the Faux-heel (have not tried this one yet, think it has some wrapped stitches), the other one.


I also use only the Fleegle heel. Not only it's very straight forward, it looks very pretty.
quote=Yarn Happy Yes, I did the same as you, and ... (show quote)


Me too, Fleegle heel! It's easy and looks great. I love her toe up sock pattern as a beginning sock knitter. She explains all the bits and tells you how to avoid holes, etc.
 
Oct 17, 2012 08:25:29   #
laureen227
 
kaixixang wrote:
My main objection to the Sweet tomato heel is that you need 2/3's of the stitches for the turning. Not always possible when you're doing a base-12 amount of stitches.


actually, it can be done on 50%. i've done it several times on that amount (or close to that - if i have to do increases for the instep, i always do them on the sole side, so i sometimes have a few more stitches on the heel because of that). it definitely helps to have the book to follow directions. i did the 1st one just based on the video, w/so-so results. then i got the book, & my results were much better. i still have some loops on the inside, but they're not as large as before.
i tried the heel flap method prior to the STH, & couldn't make it look right (lots of big holes in the sides - i suck @ picking up stitches!). this has been the only heel i've had success w/& i don't plan on changing. that said - if you're happier w/the heel you use, then use it. i think we should use the heel/toe/method etc., that works for each of us.
Oct 17, 2012 09:56:47   #
jadancey (a regular here)
 
Yes, laureen227, you're right. Everyone knits differently and has different opinions. I enjoy trying new techniques and some I've liked and some i didn't. Sometimes I think I spend more time pulling out than I do knitting. But if I' m not happy with it, out it comes. Good thing I only knit small items like socks, mitts and toques.
Oct 17, 2012 11:01:36   #
tami_ohio (a regular here)
 
I have the book and the video. I think if I had only the video to watch, I wouldn't have been happy with it. I kept going between the book and the video, and yes, I ripped out!, but I have them on my feet as I type. I find them very comfortable. As soon as I finish my Christmas sock knitting, I will be going back to the STH for my socks, even tho I will have to fight with it again after making at least three pair with flap and gusset. And yes, you do have to adjust the wedges to fit. I will do 2 1/2 next time for me. I am using the flap and gusset heel for Christmas socks, because I have already knit socks for the recipients and know they will fit that way. If you really don't like it, don't do it, but I would suggest that you get the book and use that along with the video and do another pair with it. You might find you like it!
Oct 17, 2012 11:53:15   #
kaixixang (a regular here)
 
Don't know the exact weblink...someone else posted the baby sock pattern to download or go to <?>

Anyway...I have photos of the 'changed' method of doing the heels. Instead of stitching two or three together on the knit side, you sl 1(2), K1, PSSO. The 1 is for the first pass, 2 for the subsequent. AND, if you should notice that you have more loops on the right after turning (right-handed instructions here) for your purl-side work...merely stitch 2 together on the purl side for two rows. It WILL even out and you won't have holes.

laureen227 wrote:
kaixixang wrote:
My main objection to the Sweet tomato heel is that you need 2/3's of the stitches for the turning. Not always possible when you're doing a base-12 amount of stitches.


actually, it can be done on 50%. i've done it several times on that amount (or close to that - if i have to do increases for the instep, i always do them on the sole side, so i sometimes have a few more stitches on the heel because of that). it definitely helps to have the book to follow directions. i did the 1st one just based on the video, w/so-so results. then i got the book, & my results were much better. i still have some loops on the inside, but they're not as large as before.
i tried the heel flap method prior to the STH, & couldn't make it look right (lots of big holes in the sides - i suck @ picking up stitches!). this has been the only heel i've had success w/& i don't plan on changing. that said - if you're happier w/the heel you use, then use it. i think we should use the heel/toe/method etc., that works for each of us.
quote=kaixixang My main objection to the Sweet to... (show quote)
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