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Oct 19, 2012 08:10:24   #
Heknitter
 
I have a Brother 860. It has punch cards and a lace carriage. I can't find any directions on using the lace carriage. Is it used with the knit carriage or by it self? Thanks.
 
Oct 19, 2012 08:17:49   #
megilham
 
The lace carriage doesn't actually knit it just arranges the needles ready for the knit carriage, So each carriage has to make a pass over the bed for the row to be completed. You should also have extension rails for the lace carriage to slide clear of the bed allowing the knit carriage to pass over the whole bed if using all kneedles.

At least that is how my old Brother 588 used to work.
Oct 19, 2012 08:21:54   #
Heknitter
 
Thanks for your help. Now I understand. I run the lace carriage over the needles before the knit carriage every time. With the punch card the lace carriage sets up the needles to knit. Thanks again. Larry
Oct 19, 2012 11:15:20   #
KateWood (a regular here)
 
Larry, do you have any of the original lace cards for your machine??? Normally it can take 4-6, for some patterns even 8, L carriage passes before you knit with the K carriage. On the cards that are included with your KM there are arrows that indicate which way the L carriage is to go across the N bed transferring the stitches then when you are to knit a turn around symbol will be under an arrow. At that point you will move the K carriage from R to L back to the right then transfer with the L carriage or continue knitting depending on your pattern. I would recommend you practice with a lace pattern card before attempting any other lace pattern so you can become familiar with how the Ns are selected and arranged before the K carriage is used or if you should still be transferring sts. Sometimes these cards patterns are written incorrectly or punched wrong and Ns can get crossed.
Do you have your machines manual to read the section for lace knitting? You can find it here also, lace patterns are available to study in the Brother punch card pattern volumes that you can download from this link;
http://www.aboutknittingmachines.com/BrotherFreeManuals.php
Oct 20, 2012 11:59:49   #
Heknitter
 
Thanks for your help. I wondered what the little red arrows were on the punchcard. Thanks for the information about the Brother site. Went there and found lots of good things. Larry
Oct 20, 2012 15:20:45   #
KateWood (a regular here)
 
You're Welcome.
 
Oct 20, 2012 15:31:37   #
euvid
 
The instructions for the lace carriage are in the manual for the machine
Oct 20, 2012 16:43:43   #
Torticollus
 
On my Brother 890 the red arrows are the movement of the knitting carriage back and forth and the blue arrows show when to move the lace carriage across.
Oct 21, 2012 15:03:44   #
30Knitter (a regular here)
 
Heknitter wrote:
Thanks for your help. I wondered what the little red arrows were on the punchcard. Thanks for the information about the Brother site. Went there and found lots of good things. Larry


You can also watch your needles to be able to predict when your knit carriage is to be used. Your needles will always go to "B" position when the lace carriage is finished transferring. You should always end up on the left side of the bed when the lace carriage has finished. Sometimes the needles have gone to "B" on the right and the next pass brings out more needles, that means there are more passes to be made. There should be no more needles in "D" from right to left.

I have even used lace cards not made for the Brother machines, but I keep in mind how the movements should be before running the knit carriage.
Oct 21, 2012 15:19:16   #
Lidia
 
Torticullus you have the arrows the wrong way round. The red arrows are for the lace carriage and the blue arrow that goes back on its self is for the knitting carriage where you knit 2 rows before following the red arrows again.
Oct 22, 2012 09:15:21   #
Torticollus
 
Yes, you are correct - sorry about that! I realized that afterward. Thanks for pointing it out.
 
Oct 23, 2012 19:03:09   #
Knuttyknitter941
 
Heknitter wrote:
I have a Brother 860. It has punch cards and a lace carriage. I can't find any directions on using the lace carriage. Is it used with the knit carriage or by it self? Thanks.


It is used in conjunction with the main carriage. First you knit with the main carriage (with the punch card in and operating) until only certain ndls are selected to "D" position. Then you pass the lace carriage back and forth until no ndls are in "D". Then it's back to the main carriage.

The lace carriage function is to "flip" the yarn on the D ndl to the next ndl., thus creating a hole or space. It can only flip from one ndl to another. You can't have two empty ndls together when you finish. Hope I've helped.
Jun 22, 2013 18:09:54   #
ninapi
 
I have a Brother 860 and I am trying to use the lace-tuck carriage for the first time and I don't understand how/when/which direction to move both carriages, if you move the lace carriage by itself how does the punchcard move forward/get tripped?

Any help would be great,
Jun 24, 2013 13:13:21   #
30Knitter (a regular here)
 
The lace carriage resides on the left side of the machine. Your knitting carriage will reside on the right side of the machine. The row count will be tripped with the knitting carriage. The punch card will be moved by the lace carriage. You will start with your punch card locked on row 1. Knit one row with the lace carriage, the needles will be selected to be transferred. You will then release the punch card to the middle position, NEVER all the way back. You can then move the lace carriage to the left. At this time the needles that were selected will be transferred to the left. (I am guessing you are using the lace cards that came with your machine - they should be red). There are arrows on the card indicating which direction to move the lace carriage. You will also see an arrow with a sideways u, this means move the knit carriage from right to left (knit 2 rows). If there is a number, then move the knit carriage the number of rows indicated. You may want to do a dry run (no yarn in the machine) and watch what the needles do.

Run you lace carriage for the number of rows and as long as there are needles selected you will move the lace carriage. If there is no movement, that means the transfers for those rows are done.
Jun 24, 2013 18:49:07   #
ninapi
 
I know how to work lace, what they do not know is how to integrate the two techniques lace and tuck. the punch card shows me 2 types of arrows, black, a large, close. But I do not know when I have to press the 2 tuck and when should I start with lace.'m Trying to understand the card n. 721 of the 3rd vol. beginning with the carriage L, which selects the needles, but after that, what should I do? take the main carriage, which is where? on the right side of the machine?Thanks for your help.
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