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help with center decrease.
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May 31, 2011 14:47:57   #
babssimone
 
I have been knitting for years, but this still trips me up. The shawl directions say, Place marker one stitch before center. To make the decrease, knit the stitch before the marker with the stitch after the marker. So first question is where does that marker go? I have to take it off for the decrease. Does it go before I knit the two together or after? Either way, it changes the stitch count for the next decrease. I am so confused I don't even know if I am explaining if properly. Thanks for any help.
 
Jun 1, 2011 14:40:22   #
Sorlenna (a regular here)
 
I know what you mean about that being confusing, and I think I see what you mean, but are you decreasing every row or every other row? If you're decreasing every row, it should work out, but if it's every other row, that's a critter of another color...are the decreases supposed to move diagonally across the piece or be in a straight line up the center? I'm trying to get a visual on it.
Jun 1, 2011 16:30:24   #
babssimone
 
Sorlenna wrote:
I know what you mean about that being confusing, and I think I see what you mean, but are you decreasing every row or every other row? If you're decreasing every row, it should work out, but if it's every other row, that's a critter of another color...are the decreases supposed to move diagonally across the piece or be in a straight line up the center? I'm trying to get a visual on it.


I am decreasing every other row on right side and purling back on wrong side. Decreases are in center back. I have to take the marker off the needle to knit the stitch before it with the stitch after it right? Then what do I do with it. Put it on the needle before I k2tog or after? There is a shawl I have been dying to make. It is called the Comfort Shawl. Very, very popular. It is feather and fan with a central decrease. You can see this on Ravelry or on Google. Thanks for your input.
Jun 1, 2011 17:05:15   #
jbandsma (a regular here)
 
The idea for the marker is simply to keep sight of where the center stitch is. After you make your decrease, place the marker back BEFORE that stitch since it now becomes your center stitch.

I'm surprised, though that it's only calling for a single decrease. Most center decreases are double (either sl 1, k2 tog, psso or s2, k1, psso)
Jun 1, 2011 17:08:37   #
Sorlenna (a regular here)
 
babssimone wrote:
Place marker one stitch before center. To make the decrease, knit the stitch before the marker with the stitch after the marker.


As I read it, I would do it this way: knit to the last stitch before the marker, then slip the stitch before the marker. You would have to remove the marker, knit those two stitches together, then slip the stitch to the left, put the marker back, slip the stitch onto the right needle, and then work from there...I realized I read it wrong the first time, and now I'm really wondering about it! I'll take a look at the pattern and see if it is any clearer.
Jun 2, 2011 12:22:16   #
babssimone
 
thanks for helping. Will try it your way.
 
Jun 2, 2011 12:23:25   #
babssimone
 
thanks for taking the time to help. I will try it. What a pain slipping stitches back and forth. I should just substitute a different center decrease although it may be done this way to keep the feather and fan pattern going.
Jun 2, 2011 17:04:07   #
babssimone
 
so sorry, the shawl is not Sara Bradbury's Comfort shawl. It is a free pattern from Jane Thornley called Sea Shell Capelet. No need to go to the trouble of searching it out. I appreciate all your help.
Jun 2, 2011 17:22:47   #
Sorlenna (a regular here)
 
Is it this one: http://www.janethornley.com/blog/index.php/knitting/FreePatterns_detail/new_free_pattern_shell_dance_capelet/ ? If so, there's a note about the decreases: "In order not to skew the stitches, youÂ’ll be knitting the center stitch together with the stitch immediately before it and then, on the next right side row, knitting the center stitch together with the stitch immediately after it, alternating the befores and afters throughout the project." That shouldn't require any marker moving, as I see it. Does that help?
Jun 2, 2011 18:02:11   #
babssimone
 
Yes, that is the pattern. I understand what she is saying, the problem was what to do with the marker. I think you helped with that in your first response. Moving it back and forth, etc. Are you familiar with Ravelry? If you are not, google and join. You can see scores of versions of printed patterns which helps with yarn selections, knitting help, etc.
Jun 2, 2011 18:06:41   #
Sorlenna (a regular here)
 
Yup, I'm on Ravelry--have a couple of patterns up there and am hoping to get more as soon as the schedule allows. :)
 
          
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