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How to use brothers lace punch card on silver reed?
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Aug 11, 2013 22:55:40   #
I have bought a some punch cards from ebay and all of them are for brothers machine. According to the description it can be used for silver reed. there are green cards don't know what it is. the lace cards that came with it has the return arrow on the side. How can I use this cards for my silver reed ? the picture show one of the cards.

Aug 11, 2013 23:54:06   #
4sim wrote:
I have bought a some punch cards from ebay and all of them are for brothers machine. According to the description it can be used for silver reed. there are green cards don't know what it is. the lace cards that came with it has the return arrow on the side. How can I use this cards for my silver reed ? the picture show one of the cards.

Brother punch cards can be used on a Silver Reed knitting machine.

The main thing to note is that Silver Reed start the patterning on Row 5; Brother punch card machines read from Row 7.

So what you need to do when setting up your Brother punchcard is to start two rows below the marked start line on a Brother card.

Aug 12, 2013 05:30:41   #
They won't knit and transfer on the same row, you set the carriage to transfer on all the rows with holes in, then the 2 rows that are totally unpunched are when you knit across and back with the yarn - you have to knit 2 rows before doing the next transfer sequence.
Aug 12, 2013 09:06:51   #
Aren't the green cards for the Garter carriage?
Aug 12, 2013 11:11:30   #
Brother fairisle, tuck and slip cards can be used on the knitmaster/silver reed. Start at 2 rows below the marked row 1. Brother lace cards cannot be used on the KM/SR, they need to be repunched. The green cards are either for the garter carriage or the double bed colour changer.
Aug 12, 2013 11:50:55   #
how do you re-punched? I have blank cards and puncher (just bought it at the knit knack shop in Indiana last week) Do I just copy it the way it is set up on the brothers punch card?
Aug 12, 2013 13:11:12   #
I looked and I have a green card and it is for the electronic garter carriage, I also have a double bed color changer and my cards for that are not green they are blue.
Aug 12, 2013 15:21:20   #
The cards for my Brother KRC900 double bed colour changer are green and for the single bed blue.
I will look up how to repunch Brother lace cards to KM. I'm sure there was an article in Machine Knitting Monthly not too long ago and let you know.
Aug 12, 2013 16:30:26   #
brenda m
Unless they've changed, brother lace cards are very different from the silver reed/singer/studio because the brother has a separate lace carriage and the silver reed had one carriage. I have an old studio with it's one carriage.
Aug 12, 2013 17:08:33   #
So how can I use the lace p.c. with my silver read?
Aug 12, 2013 20:40:28   #
Ok that is confusing my color changer is a double bed one and my cards are blue. There must be different ones.
Aug 13, 2013 11:48:30   #
brenda m
The brother machines have a carriage and a lace carriage which transfers stitches whereas the silver reed/studio/singer has the one carriage to do both. The other punchcards should work except for the beginning rows. It's only the lace cards that are different.
Aug 13, 2013 13:00:38   #
Do I use both carriage ?
Aug 13, 2013 14:38:41   #
If you are knitting lace on your machine you only need to use the lace carriage. Have you bought a lace carriage? You have to buy them separately they don't come with the machine the same as the Brother's lace carriage does.

If you have the lace carriage for your machine it transfers the stitches and knits them at the same time.
The brother lace carriage only transfers the stitches and then because it hasn't knit them you have to use the main carriage.
The punch card that you have pictured shows the rows that make the pattern (the ones with the holes in them) these are the ones that the Brother lace carriage is used to do. Then it shows the blank rows (the ones with no holes in them) these blank rows are the ones that the Brothers main carriage knits.
That lace card for your machine would have the holes in every blank rows.
To use a Brother lace card on a Silver Reed machine with it's lace carriage you don't want those blank rows. You need to re-punch that card omitting the blank rows.
It's rather complicated to explain but you would need to punch the first 5 rows that the Brother card has with holes in it ( these are the rows from the very bottom of the card) below your start line (row 1) You then continue to punch all the following rows that have holes in them. You will find that you wont reach the top of your card so you will have to go back to the very first row (the one at the very bottom of the brother card) and start again from there. When you reach the top of your card you must make sure that the last row punched is in the right order for when the card starts reading from the bottom of it again. In other words that the pattern continues in the exact same order.....the same pattern repeat.
I hope that I have explained this correctly and that you can understand it. if you are inexperience in how the punch cards are read and work...I personally would advice that you get the correct cards for your machines lace carriage. I am not sure but if you make a mistake it is possible that you could damage not only your needles but your lace carriage also...and seeing that cards are not that expensive I would plump for getting new lace cards that are made for your machine only.
Maye there is someone that can explain things better than I can and therefore help you more.
Aug 14, 2013 06:23:07   #
That is the best explanation I have yet read, and I have often tried to solve this problem myself. I have acquired a lot of brother lace punch cards, but my only Brother machine is a chunky which doesn't do lace. My other machines are studio/silver reed, and I am currently only using the electronic one, though I do have a Studio 700 tucked away, but no room to set it up.

I don't know if this would work - and I can't try it because I do not currently have the punchcard machine set up - but would it be possible to use the Brother card, but set the lace carriage to transfer only for the rows with holes, and then re-set to knit only for the rows without holes.

Similarly, if you had a Brother machine, but knitmaster lace cards, would there be a way to make that work?

If anyone tries this I would love to know the answer.

Clearly this whole subject is very confusing as it crops up time and again in the old issues of magazines, but the explanations are usually hard to understand.

Does anyone know if the Lace Tool you can get for DesignaKnit gets around this problem?
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