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Knitting a Jewish prayer shawl?
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Jul 16, 2011 20:46:37   #
estroe
 
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her a tallit (a Jewish prayer shawl) for her birthday in December. I have the silk yarn ($400.00 worth) from another project that I did not finish, and was thinking that I would knit her something special. It will probably be 72" long and about 36 to 40 " wide depending on the pattern. Has anyone of you created a lace shawl that could give me some guidance? Like how lacey is to lacy and how detailed do I want the lace? Any help would be appreciated. :)
 
Jul 16, 2011 21:20:33   #
ompuff (a regular here)
 
estroe wrote:
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her a tallit (a Jewish prayer shawl) for her birthday in December. I have the silk yarn ($400.00 worth) from another project that I did not finish, and was thinking that I would knit her something special. It will probably be 72" long and about 36 to 40 " wide depending on the pattern. Has anyone of you created a lace shawl that could give me some guidance? Like how lacey is to lacy and how detailed do I want the lace? Any help would be appreciated. :)
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her ... (show quote)


Do a search for lace shawls---look at all the lovely pictures and try to find one you like and feel competent to do. Lace can be challenging-especially if you've never done it.
There are lots of lace stitch patterns, simple and complex which can be adapted for rectangular shawls.
Jul 16, 2011 21:23:48   #
estroe
 
Thanks for the fast reply :thumbup: i will sleep on it and look first thing in the morning when I am more alert :roll:
Jul 16, 2011 21:25:04   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
There's a discussion that may help you here: http://www.knittingparadise.com/t-9876-1.html

Here's an idea to do one using the Tree of Life pattern:
http://whimsytaylor.blogspot.com/2009/12/knitted-tallit-and-never-ending.html

The Tree of Life pattern itself is free at: www.lionbrand.com&minPrice=0&noBoolean=1&searchText=tree+of+life&sT=1&Go.x=0&Go.y=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="word-wrap:break-word;">http://cache.lionbrand.com/cgi-bin/patternFinder.fcgi?search=Search&store=%2Fstores%2Feyarn&resultPageTemplate=ResultPage.html&resultItemTemplate=ResultItem.txt&noResultPageTemplate=NoResultPage.html&case=no&primaryServer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lionbrand.com&minPrice=0&noBoolean=1&searchText=tree+of+life&sT=1&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

Have fun!
Jul 17, 2011 05:51:19   #
miranda Jeffries
 
Have looked at many sites but haven't been able to find one for women. Some sites have them ready made, for both, but your wanting to make your own masterpiece. All i know is that they are not normally lacy and there is a stipulation regarding using some different kinds of material. Think you can't mix wool and linen?? But try your local schul or a Rabbi and ask. Also some of the older European members, ladies, may help. Will be a labor of love and a wonderful heirloom to hand down for generations to come. Best of luck and would dearly love to see it finished. Miranda.http://www.knittingparadise.com/compose_reply.jsp?topicnum=19497#
Jul 17, 2011 08:35:09   #
marywil
 
I was in my local Joann's yesterday andscanned a small book on knit prayer shawls. It was about $9 and had some very nice patterns of varying degrees of expertise. I didn't buy it but can't seem to get it out of my head. I just bought 5 knitting books last week so cannot buy any more until I do at least one project from each book. That resolution will last as long as the one I made saying no more yarn purchases until you use what you already have.
 
Jul 17, 2011 08:37:50   #
cbjlinda
 
Google knitted jewish prayer shawl and you get all kinds of instructions " Have fun!
Jul 17, 2011 08:39:41   #
euvid
 
Silk is perfect. You can't mix wool and linen in anything you wear if you are Jewish and observant. The other laws of
a Talis don't apply since it is being made for a woamn and the laws only apply to a Talis worn by a man.
So find a beautiful pattern and make it any way you like.
Jul 17, 2011 10:18:19   #
Jansk
 
Here is a link to the Shawl Ministry which tells of the origin and meaning of Jewish (and other prayer shawls). It has some prayers to be said whilst knitting the shawls and also some patterns which mostly seem to be of a 3k 3p basket stitch pattern although there is a lacy one which looks like feather and fan stitch. Hope this helps.

http://www.shawlministry.com/

Jan x
Jul 17, 2011 11:26:56   #
BubbyIssaquah
 
The tallit will be in and out of a tallit bag every time it's used, and will be subject to getting caught on everything around the wearer. I'd be careful about making it lacy for that reason. Knitting appropriate symbols (star of David, tree of life, etc.) into it would make for a beautiful tallit that would keep its shape and not wind up with a lot of pulled threads. Just a thought. Good luck....please post a picture of the finished work.
Jul 17, 2011 12:52:12   #
knittingneedles
 
estroe wrote:
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her a tallit (a Jewish prayer shawl) for her birthday in December. I have the silk yarn ($400.00 worth) from another project that I did not finish, and was thinking that I would knit her something special. It will probably be 72" long and about 36 to 40 " wide depending on the pattern. Has anyone of you created a lace shawl that could give me some guidance? Like how lacey is to lacy and how detailed do I want the lace? Any help would be appreciated. :)
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her ... (show quote)


here is an article about knitting etc jewish prayer shawls.. are you interested in making it Kosher???

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/prayer-shawl-patterns.html
 
Jul 17, 2011 13:30:02   #
mothermartha
 
hi, I noticed this right away as my church has a prayer shawl ministery. On the site of the other conversation on Jewish Prayer shawls was a youtube url and on that (I was fascinated with the "movies" always am) and there was a totally beautiful video of lady 's shawls from Isreal. Not knitted, but a treat for the eyes and show the designs.
Jul 17, 2011 13:46:54   #
kneonknitter
 
estroe wrote:
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her a tallit (a Jewish prayer shawl) for her birthday in December. I have the silk yarn ($400.00 worth) from another project that I did not finish, and was thinking that I would knit her something special. It will probably be 72" long and about 36 to 40 " wide depending on the pattern. Has anyone of you created a lace shawl that could give me some guidance? Like how lacey is to lacy and how detailed do I want the lace? Any help would be appreciated. :)
Hi ladies: I want to surprise my DD and knit her ... (show quote)


Estroe..I knitted my late sister a Jewish Prayer shawl in a feather & fan pattern that had 18 stitches to the pattern, which was why I chose it. It not only came out gorgeous, but, it made a very ugly stash of yarn into an absolutely beautiful yarn after it was worked up. Let me know if you want me to send you the pattern stitch. I didn't do a pattern I just incorporated the stitch into the measurements I wanted. You can see the shawl on my ravelry page.

http://www.ravelry.com/projects/happyknittinglady
Jul 17, 2011 13:53:48   #
sandytene
 
A "Kosher" Talit should be made of cotton, not silk.
Jul 17, 2011 13:58:48   #
knittingneedles
 
BubbyIssaquah wrote:
The tallit will be in and out of a tallit bag every time it's used, and will be subject to getting caught on everything around the wearer. I'd be careful about making it lacy for that reason. Knitting appropriate symbols (star of David, tree of life, etc.) into it would make for a beautiful tallit that would keep its shape and not wind up with a lot of pulled threads. Just a thought. Good luck....please post a picture of the finished work.


You are very right about that...

Here is a link to my friends store.. maybe you can get some ideas from her..
http://www.lenoxjudaica.com/viewCategory.cfm?categoryID=35
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