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Jan 7, 2015 23:32:17   #
annazygowski
 
I have this great book from the 60's called "empisal knitting pattern".
I'm wondering if anyone else has the book and has tried converting the charts in the book to modern punchcards?
I'm trying a few and there are some odd things.
In some lace patterns it asks you to run your knit carriage one row (rather than the usual 2 rows). So then you have two carriages on one side? :/
In other charts it specifies that you should move the "slide dial" a certain amount. Is the slide dial some kind of racking mechanism that moves the pattern position either right from center or left from centre? If so:COOL feature! And that definitely makes a big difference when converting the pattern!

It's a treasure trove of a book but the charting is a bit bonkers:)






 
Jan 8, 2015 02:29:39   #
Tallie9
 
This book was created for the '8 push button machines'....
Brother 585/588/601(Empisal 680L)/710.....There are also a few different titles for the same book...depending on which country it was sold in....
I have this book and use it for my 588.....and I have used it for my Brother 230(bulky manual selection) for slip..tuck..and lace.
I have known other machine knitters to use this book..

Be aware...all the patterns in this book are an 8 stitch repeat ...You could repeat the design 3 times on a 24 stitch punch card ...so it is do-able.....or.....5 times on a 40 stitch card(Passap)...

The 'slide dial' is equivolent to the racking mechanism of a ribber......but it also allows you to select all the opposite needles by sliding another lever from the 'A' position to the 'B' position.....

The lace carriage is parked on the left side of the bed....The main carriage on the right side of the bed....You would depress the numbered buttons(per your lace pattern) and operate the 'set lever' to bring out those needles...Run the lace carriage from left to right.....Then bring the lace carriage back to the left side of the bed....Now you would knit with the main carriage 2 rows.......If your lace pattern has a return arrow for the lace carriage....you would first depress the appropriate numbered buttons and operate the 'set lever' to bring out those needles and run the lace carriage from right to left.....
Jan 8, 2015 05:50:53   #
janetmk
 
I have a book something like this and keep thinking I must get my head round this but I always seem to find something else to do, shame as the patterns are just great!
Jan 8, 2015 08:29:00   #
annazygowski
 
Thanks.
I am as far as having graphed out 24 repeat cards.
The slide dial is marked 1 to 8. Maybe you are thinking of the reverse knob??

The confusion with the lace carriage: I know how to operate a lace carriage when you have a return arrow. But in the last photo the lace carriage is run one way. Looking through the book, the most compelling lace designs have this one way lace carriage quirk. I am trying to visualize and graph this.

It is a great book!
Jan 8, 2015 09:37:30   #
Tallie9
 
annazygowski wrote:
Thanks.
I am as far as having graphed out 24 repeat cards.
The slide dial is marked 1 to 8. Maybe you are thinking of the reverse knob??
The confusion with the lace carriage: I know how to operate a lace carriage when you have a return arrow. But in the last photo the lace carriage is run one way. Looking through the book, the most compelling lace designs have this one way lace carriage quirk. I am trying to visualize and graph this.
It is a great book!


I'm sorry...I did screw-up that explanation.....The 'slide dial' is the same as 'racking'........The 1 thru 8 push buttons are to select the needles....and the 'reverse knob' in 'A' position will bring those needles forward for the numbered buttons you have pushed.......In the 'B' position....it will bring the needles forward of the buttons you haven't pushed....

Before moving the lace carriage from left to right....the 'set lever' has to be cranked to bring the selected needles forward for transfer.....then you move the lace carriage to the right ....Now all the needles have returned to 'B' position.....so the lace carriage can be moved back across to the left side of the bed without any effect on the knitting......or....you can just lift it off of the right side of the bed and place it back on the left side of the bed.......Clearing the way to run the main carriage....
I realize that with some other machines(punchcard).....you cannot remove the lace carriage from the bed....so unless the carriage allows for a 'free pass' back across the bed(some equivolent of a 'Part Button').....there would be a problem with doing those patterns...
Jan 8, 2015 10:00:34   #
annazygowski
 
Here is the cover of my book for anyone interested.

Thanks Tallie!

I think it's interesting to note that some laces in the book use the knit carriage in quirky ways and some use the lace carriage in quirky ways.
Converting these laces for use in studio or brother punch card mechanisms means locking the punchcard in certain places or like you say, employing free pass.
I posted another lace example for anyone interested:)




 
Jan 8, 2015 10:04:59   #
janetmk
 
Thanks for the greater explanation, yes this is the cover on the one I have, it was a bargain price and crammed full of patterns!
Jan 8, 2015 10:09:10   #
annazygowski
 
Here are my rough notes for my toyota 901 (handles like a brother) and the corresponding lace structure.




Jan 8, 2015 10:17:59   #
Tallie9
 
annazygowski wrote:
Here is the cover of my book for anyone interested.

Thanks Tallie!

I think it's interesting to note that some laces in the book use the knit carriage in quirky ways and some use the lace carriage in quirky ways.
Converting these laces for use in studio or brother punch card mechanisms means locking the punchcard in certain places or like you say, employing free pass.
I posted another lace example for anyone interested:)



I guess it does seem quirky if you've never used one of these '8 push button machines'......This was the first and only machine I had for many years.....so for me it was the norm...

I had posted that book awhile back...Brother Knitting Pattern is another title for the same book....I do have an extra copy with the Empisal title though...
Jan 8, 2015 10:26:44   #
Tallie9
 
annazygowski wrote:
Here are my rough notes for my toyota 901 (handles like a brother) and the corresponding lace structure.


Let us know how it knits out...
...I would think that it would work well on the Toyota...
...Not so sure it would work with Singer/Studio lace carriages..
Jan 8, 2015 11:00:13   #
janetmk
 
That's really helpful - I think mine says it was for a Jones! We have moved recently and not sure I can just put my hands on the book but I will try. These old books always have so much more in them than the new magazines that I am always on the look out for them, a pity for them to go to waste!
 
Jan 8, 2015 11:07:07   #
annazygowski
 
I do a lot do hand transferred lace on my old industrial hand flats. These older books and their laces are similar to the ones in the books I have for the hand flats. If you break each movement down into a hand transfer then visualize how to apply it to a particular machine it does help.
Jan 8, 2015 11:09:32   #
janetmk
 
Yes, I do quite a bit of hand knitting and was in Shetland in October for wool week - such a treat- and had reinforced - it's the holes to concentrate on in lace knitting!
Jan 8, 2015 11:09:54   #
janetmk
 
- in designing that is....
Jan 8, 2015 13:17:47   #
susieknitter (a regular here)
 
I always thought that the early Knitmaster/Singer machines were called Empisal and books like these were originally meant for them. Knitmaster later made machines that had the name Knitmaster Empisal on them, their manual,and machine boxes.....a bit like a car called a Ford ??????If I am right this would explain why there is only one movement with a lace carriage and also why the book is written/set out like a Knitmaster manual is.
Having said this if Tallie has the same book that is titled Brother then I must be wrong. Also if you can use the patterns.....which Tallie obviously can....then I suppose it doesn't matter anyway.
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