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Sep 27, 2011 20:16:44   #
Sparkler24
 
Im makeing a dress for my granddaughter and the instructions to shape the neck are:

K9(9,10,11,12)sts; attach 2nd ball of yarn and and bind off center 14 (16,18,18,20) sts,then knit rem sts---9(9,10,11,12)sts on each side.

working both sides at once with separate balls of yarn, dec 1 st at each neck edge (every row) twice---- 7(7,8,9,10)sts.

The part I am not sure about is where to attatch the scond ball of yarn and how to do the attaching of the second ball of yarn.

Thank you so much for any help offerred.
 
Sep 27, 2011 20:29:01   #
Joy Marshall (a regular here)
 
The instructions don't make it very clear. The the following is how I do it. There are variations. You use the first ball of yarn (the one you are already using) to knit the first side of the neck. Then cast off the centre neck stitches. Okay, your first ball of yarn is now on the far side of the neck. You need the second ball of yarn to attach to the first half of the side neck. Just tie it in. Can't think of how to describe that to you. Or, you can make a loop of the yarn and knit that first stitch and knit the tail and the main yarn together for a stitch to secure it. Clear as mud? Now you have a ball of yarn on both sides of the neck. The instructions are telling you to knit each side at the same time. You don't have to do that. You can leave the first side on a stitch holder or waste yarn and go back and finish it after you have finished the other side, using the same decreases. I am sure there is a knitter out there who can explain it better than this, or have a different method.
Sep 27, 2011 20:55:08   #
funthreads623
 
Try this: as it says, Knit the first 9, etc. stitches. Tie a small knot with the new ball of yarn, drop the first strand of yarn, and with the new one, bind off the center stitches and then continue across the second side.
If you bind off the center with the first yarn, it will now be on the second side, which will not allow you to knit the first side with it. Be sure to knit both sides the same; that's why they usually say to do both sides at once. That is what I do. It really is easy.
Another thing that you can do, is put the center stitches on a holder, do the sides as instructed, then go finish the neckedge with live stitches instead of dealing with bound off stitches.
Sep 29, 2011 20:17:35   #
Sparkler24
 
Thank you Joy and funthreads623, I had to read over what you said a couple of times and then I understood. I also liked your idea to put the center stitches on a holder so I cn finish the neckedge with live stitches instead of the bound off ones. Im working on the front now.
Sep 29, 2011 21:47:31   #
deemail (a regular here)
 
Shaping a Pullover Neckline
By: Barbara Breiter

When making a pullover sweater in either knitting or crochet, there are many different ways to construct a sweater. In some cases, you will be working from the top-down in one piece (working from the neckline downwards, adding stitches for your raglan sleeves, and then coming back in for the body); you might also work in the round from the bottom edge, splitting the stitches at the arm holes and then working on the front and back separately; alternately, you may work the sweater in pieces, starting from the bottom edge and working up towards the neckline. This last method of construction is the one we will be discussing in this article.

When you shape the neck of the front of a pullover, in particular a crew neck or a v-neck, you are ensuring that the neck opening will be large enough so that it fits over the head. There are two components: the width and the depth.

The depth is generally several inches. This is why the neckline shaping begins before the front armhole reaches the depth of the back armhole (where usually only width is of consequence to the total neck opening).

To begin, stitches are eliminated in the center and then decreasing takes place on each side of these center stitches to further widen and shape the neck opening. When the depth is completed, the shoulder stitches are usually bound off.

Here's an example of an instruction you may see:

Shape Neck
K14 (15, 16, 16) sts, join a 2nd ball of yarn and bind off next 6 (8, 8, 10) sts, k to end. Working both sides at once with separate balls of yarn, dec 1 st at each neck edge every other row 3 times - 11 (12, 13, 13) sts. Work until same length as Back to shoulders.

Knit Ribbed Top
An instruction where you are working with two balls at the same time is sometimes confusing. Here's how it breaks down:

Work across the row as indicated for the first set of stitches. Add the new ball in the same way you would when you run out and add a new ball (work the first stitch, leaving a long tail you will weave in later). Work across as indicated with the second ball.
You now have two balls of yarn attached, one on each side of the neck.
Now you will work both sides at the same time, ensuring you have the same number of rows. Work across the row with the yarn that is attached to the end of that series of stitches. Drop the yarn. Pick up the other ball and complete the row on the other side of the neck. Continue in this way.
There are other ways to accomplish this as well without working with two balls of yarn. Just keep track of the number of rows rather than relying on measuring, as it's easy to measure incorrectly.

A Second Way
You could work across the first set of stitches and then place them on a holder. Continuing with the same ball, bind off the center stitches and then complete the row, working the remaining stitches. Work the one side as indicated. When it’s complete, place the stitches from the holder back on the needle and complete the other side.
A Third Way
Another way to work these instructions would be to work across the first set of stitches and place them on a holder as in the second alternative. Then, instead of binding off the center stitches, work across those stitches and place them on a second holder. Continue across and complete this side, then the side with the first set of stitches as above.

Since you are going to pick up stitches to work some sort of edging along the neckline, you can simply work these center stitches off the holder instead of picking up stitches along that area. It saves time and there won’t be a ridge along the wrong side of the neck when you pick up stitches; rather, it will be a continuation of your stitches.
Editor's Note: For crocheters, you won't have to worry about a stitch holder. Simply put a split ring stitch marker into the "live" stitch to keep it from unraveling. Then you will be able to work the stitches and indicated above and come back to the live stitch when you're ready to proceed with that section of the sweater neck.
A final note for knitters: use the correct decrease as you shape so they slant right and left in the correct places!

this is a reprint i saved a couple of years ago but i don't remember where...sorry.... it does note Barbara Breiter as the author, so thanks to her and her great info...
Sep 29, 2011 22:22:10   #
Sparkler24
 
Thanks so much deemail, I will refer to these instructions when I get to the neck edge on the front side. Its a lot of fun learning all these different ways of doing things. :-)
 
Sep 29, 2011 22:29:46   #
Dreamweaver (a regular here)
 
Thanks - all. Always good to see how others would do this.
Oct 14, 2012 20:50:19   #
eshlemania
 
Googled for help with shaping the neck of my first sweater. Imagine my delight when my beloved KnittingParadise was one of my options.

Thanks a year later. :D:D
Mar 8, 2014 04:57:51   #
melinda2012
 
How should I knit a (top down raglan) V-shaped neckline? Can anyone help me with this? Thank you!
 
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