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Messy bun hat question
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Jan 10, 2017 16:21:40   #
My friend Brenda is making a messy bun hat is wants to know what is used for the elastic at the bun hole. I can't tell by looking at the pictures that have been posted. Thanks so much.
Jan 10, 2017 16:29:29   #
I didn't use elastic at all. The bind off holds the opening close to the scalp.
Jan 10, 2017 16:30:18   #
ChristmasTree (a regular here)
I think it's a hair tie -- thick pony tail elastic band.
You're right though, it's not necessary.
Jan 10, 2017 16:41:38   #
I am going to make one for my granddaughters. I wondered the same . I prefer not to have elastic. The hole looked awfully large. Romania how large was your opening?
Jan 10, 2017 16:50:48   #
I made two ... both were 1898 hats. One was at row with K5, K2tog ... the other at K3, K2tog (the hole in this one was a bit small).
Jan 10, 2017 17:12:03   #
Dances with Wool (a regular here)
Why is it called a "messy bun" hat?
Jan 10, 2017 17:16:02   #
Thanks all. We are sitting in our weekly knitting meeting and have put our heads together. Brenda is going to knit in an elastic ponytail holder in a color that matches or complements the color she is using. She won't have to worry about tying a knot. I'll post a picture when she's finished.
Jan 10, 2017 18:31:14   #
jinx (a regular here)
If the hats are made top down a hair elastic works great to start from.
Jan 11, 2017 08:01:47   #
Sherryc (a regular here)
I've made them both with and without the pony tail elastic. My new DIL wanted the elastic in one of her messy bun hats so her hair would stay outside the hat and not work back in. I crocheted her one of those. Easy to do and the elastic is firm enough where the hair should stay put. I also knitted her one and put holes around the top where I could insert a crocheted tie so she could tighten or loosen according to how she wanted to wear her hair. Both work well.

If you have a pretty big opening for the bun, the hair will not stay put. That was my DILs biggest complaint about the bun hat she bought. Thus, she asked if I could make one that wouldn't do that. I made 2.
Jan 11, 2017 08:18:38   #
I've made dozens of these. I customize the hole for each hat. I have TONS of hair, so I need a larger hole. I love the idea of a "tie" worked in to the hole...hadn't thought about that.
When I've used soft yarn, I have used an elastic tie. Either works well.
Called a "messy bun" hat b/c that's the style...the messy bun; hair just gathered and tied up.
Jan 11, 2017 09:07:57   #
I knit hats on a Knifty Knitter loom. I tried making a messy bun hat on the loom but it came out all messy. I watched a You Tube video and they said when the hat is the length you want it cut the yarn the length needed and put a large eyed needle on it. Put the needle through each loop and slide each loop off peg. When it is completely off the loom pull on yarn until hole is the size you want and tie off. My complaint or problem is, when the last loops are off the pegs they are too big and make the top of the hat look like I did a big mistake. Any advice from anyone else that uses a loom for messy bun hat. The whole hat looks fine until the last row taking it off the loom. The stitches are too lose.
Jan 11, 2017 09:49:23   #
Mariette R.
I have made both; "Messy Bun Hat" and "Pony Tail Hat". The Messy Bun Hat, has a larger hole, which is at the top of the hat. This allows for someone with shorter, thick curly hair to let it "Pouf" out of the top of the hat.

The Pony Tail Hat (patterns, that I've seen and made), have a smaller hole/opening placed in the back of the hat, about half way down, which allows a traditional pony tail, (tied with a rubber band hair tie) to be pulled out of this section.

I've never included a hair tie in the design of either pattern. Ladies can use their own hair tie and just pull the hair out from the openings.
Jan 11, 2017 09:52:34   #
I have done both no hair elastic and with. I prefer no elastic.
Jan 11, 2017 10:06:56   #
I have made both. I prefer using a ponytail holder on the ponytail hats. And on the messy bun hat I crochet a chain and weave it in so it can be tightened. My daughter's love them both.
Jan 11, 2017 10:17:23   #
The hole on pattern I used was somewhat large but I decreased a few more rows to make it smaller
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