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Dec 1, 2011 21:25:47   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Having a new ball winder, I was about to convert a bunch of skeins into easier-to-store balls. Then I got to wondering ... Is it better to keep skeins as such until just before beginning to knit them?
Does it matter if the wool (it is wool I'm talking about) is balled or not?
Anyone know?

My experience with quality wool is meager.

Thanks.
 
Dec 1, 2011 21:30:00   #
Grandma Laurie
 
My LYS told me not to wind it until your ready to use it.
She said that over time it could stretch the wool. So I keep it in skeins or hanks until I'm ready to start a project with it.
Dec 1, 2011 21:40:37   #
realsilvergirl
 
I don't know the answer to your question but I knit on my looms and use two strands of yarn. Before I realized it I had many skeins of worsted acrylic and when I realized I needed two strands to knit with to make a tighter knit for hats, I realized I couldnt go out and buy duplicate skeins to knit with, so I wind up two balls to knit from the one skein. I love my ball winder! Plus once the skein starts to fall apart, I can wind the dregs into smaller more controlled balls!
Dec 1, 2011 21:49:33   #
Deeknits
 
All the LYS have told me to either leave the yarn in skeins or hanks until ready to use OR to make sure and wind it very loosely, with just enough tension to keep it together. When I first got my ball winder, I went nuts tightly winding everything that even resembled string! I've since gone back and rewound them all properly.

I now wait until I'm going to use it....but all those neatly wound balls sure are pretty in my glass front case!
Dec 1, 2011 22:00:04   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Rats! I was afraid of that answer. Too late for the few already done; I guess I'll just try to rewind them more loosely. The ones not yet done ... I'll stow the swift and ball winder before I get carried away and wind them all into balls!

Thank you.
Dec 1, 2011 22:28:31   #
deemail
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:
Rats! I was afraid of that answer. Too late for the few already done; I guess I'll just try to rewind them more loosely. The ones not yet done ... I'll stow the swift and ball winder before I get carried away and ball them all!

Thank you.
the easy way to get that soft feeling that means it is not stretched and damaging the yarn... just wind into the ball/cake to get it out of the skein/hank/ball and then do the next and the next....after a half hour or so, go back to the beginning and rewind each cake for the second time...you will be shocked to see how much larger and softer the second winding will be... i use the toilet roll cardboard center (with folded paper 'spacers' inside to make it tight so that the winder can handle larger balls without breaking the yarn... i can get an 8 oz skein in one ball (approx 7" across) if i bend the yarn guide back about a half inch....and i prefer all my skeins rewound for softness and to find out if there are any knots in the middle...which does happen...
 
Dec 1, 2011 22:54:43   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Knots? Did you say knots? If I tell you I just wound one skein into a ball ... and encountered no fewer than 70 knots, would you believe me? If you don't believe me, give me your address in a PM, and I will be delghted to mail beknotted (string of expletives deleted) thing to you!

As for it fluffing up when re-wound, that sure works! It's an unknown blend, but when I re-wound it from the too-tight cake, it came out twice the size and super soft! :-D
Dec 1, 2011 23:05:50   #
Dreamweaver
 
70???? Ridiculous... Unless it was a "reclaimed" sweater - ridiculous!!!

As to the winding... With the wonderful winder you bought and the double winding action, I would not be concerned about winding in advance. So many do seem to worry, but if you are not "speed" winding and not stressing the yarn, I see no reason not to go ahead if it makes storage easier for you. I think the rewinding suggestion from Deemail makes a lot of sense, though I haven't done that. All that said, I'm so far behind and have a storage system that doesn't really matter if there are skeins or not, I am leaving in skeins at the moment - but I don't have a neat new toy and don't like my swift.
Dec 1, 2011 23:13:18   #
e.ridenh
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:
Having a new ball winder, I was about to convert a bunch of skeins into easier-to-store balls. Then I got to wondering ... Is it better to keep skeins as such until just before beginning to knit them?
Does it matter if the wool (it is wool I'm talking about) is balled or not? Anyone know? My experience with quality wool is meager. Thanks.

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I just wind hanks, collapsed skeins and leftovers, JJ - and by hand - using the thumb method.........really good looking ones, too if I'm taking careful aim; LOL!

I like the miniature ones (skeins), also - add miniature knitting needles or a widdle, widdle hook = sweet - make a hanger and put them on a tree...

Mini hooks and needles are available online, too or in LYSs - too cute!

Donna Rae
Dec 1, 2011 23:24:00   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Dreamweaver wrote:
70???? Ridiculous... Unless it was a "reclaimed" sweater - ridiculous!!!
I counted them as the yarn fed from the swift to the cake. I'm guessing someone must have reclaimed a sweater, tied the ends, made a skein, washed, dried, and twisted it into a pretty - and new-looking - skein. Of course, I never expected a skein to be reclaimed bits and pieces! I have learned not to trust the huge balls sometimes seen at chruch bazaars. They turned out to be reclaimed yarn from donated sweaters that were too damaged to be resold. :( Some volunteer got suckered into picking out the machine sewn seams (some threads left behind clued me) and then picking out the entire garment ... in a very fuzzy blend. It is very nice yarn anyway.

My 70-knot ball is nowhere near as large nor as pretty, but it's not too pretty to become a cat-bed! No way am I weaving in 140 ends on something small!! Unless someone really wants it?
Dec 1, 2011 23:24:23   #
deemail
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:
Knots? Did you say knots? If I tell you I just wound one skein into a ball ... and encountered no fewer than 70 knots, would you believe me? If you don't believe me, give me your address in a PM, and I will be delghted to mail beknotted (string of expletives deleted) thing to you!

As for it fluffing up when re-wound, that sure works! It's an unknown blend, but when I re-wound it from the too-tight cake, it came out twice the size and super soft! :-D
70 knots! i would be suing people....
 
Dec 1, 2011 23:26:34   #
deemail
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:
Dreamweaver wrote:
70???? Ridiculous... Unless it was a "reclaimed" sweater - ridiculous!!!
I counted them as the yarn fed from the swift to the cake. I'm guessing someone must have reclaimed a sweater, tied the ends, made a skein, washed, dried, and twisted it into a pretty - and new-looking - skein. Of course, I never expected a skein to be reclaimed bits and pieces! I have learned not to trust the huge balls sometimes seen at chruch bazaars. They turned out to be reclaimed yarn from donated sweaters that were too damaged to be resold. :( Some volunteer got suckered into picking out the machine sewn seams (some threads left behind clued me) and then picking out the entire garment ... in a very fuzzy blend. It is very nice yarn anyway.

My 70-knot ball is nowhere near as large nor as pretty, but it's not too pretty to become a cat-bed! No way am I weaving in 140 ends on something small!! Unless someone really wants it?
quote=Dreamweaver b 70???? /b Ridiculous... Un... (show quote)
this sounds like the perfect ball for the technique that was here on the forum awhile back about short lengths that get just picked up and mixed with all your leftovers... the lady who mentioned her project said she left 3 inches hanging on the outside just for fun....
Dec 1, 2011 23:28:17   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
deemail wrote:
70 knots! i would be suing people....
No ball band. Not store-bought. Second-hand shops sell 'as is'. It looked pretty. The dark purple with small lilac bits still looks pretty. One cat-bed in its future!
Dec 1, 2011 23:42:56   #
BrattyPatty (a regular here)
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:
Having a new ball winder, I was about to convert a bunch of skeins into easier-to-store balls. Then I got to wondering ... Is it better to keep skeins as such until just before beginning to knit them?
Does it matter if the wool (it is wool I'm talking about) is balled or not?
Anyone know?

My experience with quality wool is meager.

Thanks.


Hi Jessica Jean,
I was told at a LYS to keep them in skeins until you are ready to knit them. Something about keeping the fiber from getting stretched out and losing it's 'body'.
So I bought 8 skeins that day for a blanket and made 2 trips to the yarn store to have more rewound.
I have lived by this rule ever since.
Dec 2, 2011 02:04:06   #
Dreamweaver
 
I think it willl make a wonderful cat bed and very pretty too. The only other thing I could possibly think of making with all those knows would be a pair of half finger wristlets where you could use many short lengths. Then again, very regal for the cat royalty. Whoever got suckered into reclaiming that yarn must not have had a lot of patience. Unless I am doing a Fair Isle, there is no way I ever use more than 12-14 skeins of yarn and would never have occasion, in a solid colored sweater to have more starts than skeins unless I had an extra at neck shaping.

As for that thread that was on here about making the knitted lengths ball - I thought about doing that with all different colors of yarn just for kicks or to weave a patio rug. I also have a gazillion thrums from cutting off the loom that would work for that OR make great cat beds!!!
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