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Apr 21, 2017 10:49:21   #
ankefrysland
 
There is a Pink Passap for sale near me and I am wondering if anyone can give me an idea for a good price. It is in very good condition. I am not sure if all the parts are there. Or if replacement parts are even available to find anywhere...

I don't know much about Passap. Can anyone give me an idea of what the machine is capable of? Is it similar to the green Duo machine? I cannot seem to find much information online about the pink Passap. The only thing I have seen is that it isn't capable of knitting fair isle but only textures? Is that correct? Thank you!
 
Apr 21, 2017 11:04:45   #
kobi
 
I was given a pink Passap over 20 years ago. When the 6000 came out the pinkies were being sent to the dump. The only mistake in my knitting is made by me. If following a pattern written for Passap and not just the pinkie you will need a lower stitch size but of course do a swatch. You can do far more stitch patterns than shown in the book by using the pushers. Makes beautiful socks and everything else you would want to make. Lots of sites for Passap knitting including utube. Would offer $100 and if all the tools more. Good luck Ann
Apr 21, 2017 11:32:39   #
Tallie9
 
Here's a free download for the manual......Read to see what should come with it.....and some of what it can do...
http://machineknittingetc.com/passap-duomatic-pink-user-manual.html
..I wouldn't offer more than $100 for it....You can still find parts online....and there are stitch pattern books also on the site above(see the drop-down menus at the top of the site page)....
Apr 21, 2017 13:02:54   #
ankefrysland
 
Is the Pink model a Duomatic also? It doesn't knit fair isle does it?
Apr 21, 2017 15:10:07   #
susanjoy (a regular here)
 
To knit Fair Isle with a punchcard, it will need to have a front rail, a card reader and a deco pattern reader, however you can produce geometric patterns with the pushers and by setting the locks (carriages) appropriately.
Apr 21, 2017 15:30:02   #
ankefrysland
 
So it can knit some two color stuff like tartan or plaids. It sounds interesting. I will have to see how much she decides on. I think she may want a lot more than $100 though...
 
Apr 21, 2017 22:30:00   #
Tallie9
 
ankefrysland wrote:
Is the Pink model a Duomatic also? It doesn't knit fair isle does it?



There is the Passap Duomatic(affectionately called Pinkie)....and there is Passap Duo80...
Here is a download for a stitch pattern book...many of which are fairisle that you can do ...
http://machineknittingetc.com/passap-stitch-pattern-book-2-for-duomatic-and-passap-12.html
Apr 21, 2017 22:46:57   #
ankefrysland
 
Thank you for the link. It looks like there are great possibilities for patterning. I am guessing the fair isle would have to be hand selected each row? I don't think the Pinkie has any sort of patterning/punchcard.
Apr 22, 2017 00:23:52   #
Tallie9
 
ankefrysland wrote:
Thank you for the link. It looks like there are great possibilities for patterning. I am guessing the fair isle would have to be hand selected each row? I don't think the Pinkie has any sort of patterning/punchcard.



Some designs..for example...a checkerboard design...is automatic because the 'pushers' in conjunction with the 'arrow keys' will change which needles knit....you would only need to change the color every so many rows depending on the size of your squares....On a single bed this creates floats on the back...Using the double bed this creates a stripe effect on the back (because it is woven in)....Read pages 17,18,45,46 in the manual for more info...
Be aware that even on the Duo80 or the E6000(electronic) machines fairisle patterning on the back bed(via pushers) would have to be hand manipulated....

I vaguely remember reading that if the Pinkie's serial number is #671000 or higher that you could mount the Deco(punchcard device).....but don't quote me on that one....You cannot use the color changer on the Pinkie...
Apr 22, 2017 00:31:24   #
Maryknits513
 
ankefrysland wrote:
Thank you for the link. It looks like there are great possibilities for patterning. I am guessing the fair isle would have to be hand selected each row? I don't think the Pinkie has any sort of patterning/punchcard.


You would hand select the pushers every 4th row, not every rows.

You knit two rows with color one, change to color two, then push in the left arrow key to reverse the pusher positions. The pushers that are in working position will move to rest, while the pushers in rest position will move to working position.

Hand held patterning devices called Jac40 are available. They use punchcards, speeding up the pusher selection.
Apr 22, 2017 00:33:59   #
Maryknits513
 
Tallie9 wrote:
....You cannot use the color changer on the Pinkie...


There was a color changer made for DM5s, or pinkies. The locks had to be modified to work with it. I had one,but gave it to a friend when I retired my pinkie.
 
Apr 22, 2017 09:30:21   #
ankefrysland
 
So this is what is called double jacquard on the Japanese machines. It is interesting that you can knit some fair isle without a punchcard type device. :)
Apr 22, 2017 09:32:11   #
ankefrysland
 
I think the seller may have the Jac device and a motor. She said she didn't like using the jac. It sounds like an interesting machine. I will just have to see what price she wants.
Apr 22, 2017 10:02:58   #
Tallie9
 
Maryknits513 wrote:
There was a color changer made for DM5s, or pinkies. The locks had to be modified to work with it. I had one,but gave it to a friend when I retired my pinkie.


Was it modified to work with the round feeding eyelets?.....so that it works with the same color changer that is on the Duo80?
Apr 22, 2017 10:40:35   #
ankefrysland
 
The only thing I know is that it is a Duomatic S. I am not sure if anything had been modified.
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