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Jun 9, 2017 04:52:18   #
marymmm
 
What is the best punchcard machine for home use or is an electric machine better. I'm thinking of buying a knitting machine but there's such a range.Anyadvice would be appreciated.Thanks
 
Jun 9, 2017 05:12:08   #
aprilla (a regular here)
 
I decided not to get an electronic, I got a punch card machine, the Brother 891. I'm very pleased with my decision but something I didn't know about when I was doing my homework was DBJ. Double Bed Jacquard, called multi-coloured rib in Brother-speak.
I can do this with my punch card machine but it requires hand punching complicated cards whereas the electronic can use any suitable pattern and creates a DBJ pattern from that with just a button selection (I believe). I do consider this a major difference for anyone who might want to do a lot of DBJ.
What type of yarn would you want it to use? Do you know what you want to do with one or just fancy getting one?

ps - be aware that the machine is just the beginning, you'll likely be picking up bits and pieces for it for the rest of it's life! I bought a Garter Bar for mine this week... there's always something more... :)
Jun 9, 2017 06:10:19   #
mlab (a regular here)
 
I agree with this response. It really depends on what you want to make and how much you would use the electronic facilities. I too have a Brother 891 and love it. I did buy a 950i but have hardly use it. I never seem to understand the electronic bits. Got a Singer/Superba 624 - that is just wonderful with much easier - for me - electronics.
Jun 9, 2017 06:59:36   #
Linuxgirl
 
I have to admit, that even though the electronic machines can do more than the punchcard machines, I prefer punchcards.
First, they work without electricity and still can pattern automatically. Second, the learning curve is even steeper for the electronic machines than for punchcard machines.
But that is only my preference, nothing more.
Jun 9, 2017 08:54:31   #
Macon
 
marymmm wrote:
What is the best punchcard machine for home use or is an electric machine better. I'm thinking of buying a knitting machine but there's such a range.Anyadvice would be appreciated.Thanks


The following site has info about the various kinds of machines and the types of yarns to be used.
http://www.yarn-store.com

Consider the yarn that is readily available in your country.

Also, consider the seller. Ebay sellers are notorius for selling incomplete and/or damaged goods. A local purchase is best practice.
Jun 9, 2017 08:58:27   #
delite163
 
Linuxgirl wrote:
I have to admit, that even though the electronic machines can do more than the punchcard machines, I prefer punchcards.
First, they work without electricity and still can pattern automatically. Second, the learning curve is even steeper for the electronic machines than for punchcard machines.
But that is only my preference, nothing more.

I have to admit you are on to something here. I have a Singer SK 840 which is an electric machine and a great knitter. The machine is a modular machine, which means that the basic machine just does knitting. You have to add the patterning devise with happened to be an EC1. The EC1 no longer works probably because it was from the 1980's. For a retiree like me it's almost impossible to purchase another one due to price. I now have a SK360 and just more than please with the machine.
 
Jun 9, 2017 09:02:52   #
Macon
 
Are you sure it is the EC1 that is faulty? It could be a number of other issues.
I have the same set up.
Jun 9, 2017 11:33:10   #
deemail
 
I would only suggest that a: I love my manual machines....I am looking for fast knitting, not a computer...I have a computer for that...punchcards (for manual machines) offer you hundreds of patterns with no electrical or electronic problems. b: I would suggest a bulky machine for your first...it is much easier to see the sts, pick up strands, see what's happening on youtube lessons..... and of course, they take 4 ply US yarn, so it is less expensive to learn on ... the more expensive and tinier yarns are available for another machine later on.
Jun 9, 2017 12:04:28   #
Cookiecat (a regular here)
 
Don't want to sound like sour grapes, but although I'd like an electronic, it's quite pricey for all the items that make it work - and the technology is from the 1980s, and hasn't been manufactured since then!! The punch card machines (most of them take thin sock yarn ) are quite versatile, and there are a few that take worsted weight yarn also. I suggest going on You Tube to see machine knitting with the punchcards, not sure but there are a few videos with the electronic machines also.
Jun 9, 2017 12:28:54   #
Azzara
 
Hi Mary, You have decided to upgrade from your LK 150?
Jun 9, 2017 13:51:50   #
randiejg (a regular here)
 
I have the Brother 890 punch card machine (same machine as the 891 except the 891 has the built-in KnitLeader charting device). I have several electronic machines, but find myself going back to the punch card machine frequently, especially to do work with the automatic garter carriage.
 
Jun 9, 2017 15:08:20   #
aprilla (a regular here)
 
marymmm wrote:
What is the best punchcard machine for home use or is an electric machine better. I'm thinking of buying a knitting machine but there's such a range.Anyadvice would be appreciated.Thanks


I don't know where you are but there's an opportunity to discuss/buy from an experienced machine knitter on Ravelry at the moment - Look on the machine knitting - sales and swaps board.
Jun 10, 2017 01:11:56   #
redgem
 
I would start with a punchcard machine. They are quite a learning curve even on a basic machine so make it easier on yourself till you understand the basic concept. Then if you are really bitten by the bug you can upgrade to an electronic at a later time when you have more experience and can make an educated decision about where to go from there. I am with everyone else too as I have a punchcard and electronic machines but I use the punchcard machine much more.
Jun 10, 2017 08:00:22   #
GinB
 
Mary,

Since I first decided to get into machine knitting, I wanted to learn as much as I could about knitting machines, what they can and cannot do, and how to use them before purchasing one. I have included a great deal of that research within my (seriously long list of) User Pages. I recommend that you look at this one first: "Machine Knitting - For Beginners": http://www.knittingparadise.com/user-page?upnum=5748

To view my User Pages that pertain to machine knitting, open the following link and scroll down alphabetically until you reach ones that begin with "Machine Knitting - ". http://www.knittingparadise.com/user-page-list?usernum=69944

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Ginny
(GinB on KP and Ravelry)
Jun 10, 2017 08:58:32   #
delite163
 
Macon wrote:
Are you sure it is the EC1 that is faulty? It could be a number of other issues.
I have the same set up.

Hello, yes I am absolutely sure that it was wore out. I took it apart an it was totally worn out that told me that many older EC1's might just be on their last leg. The DAK would be great but the EC1 patterning devise needs to work to.
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