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Jan 15, 2012 11:25:59   #
btibbs70
 
I pulled on the test one-ply piece, and it's really strong. So now, how do I make 3 one-ply strands from one 3-ply yarn?


 
Jan 15, 2012 13:05:26   #
NJgardengal
 
Some differnent ways that I've used to do this:
1. tie a small spool or spoon or ... to each end of the 3 strands; the weight of the small item will assist you in unraveling the yarn.

2. Gently pull on one ply while bunching up the other two. Unless there is a lot of fuzz in the yarn, you should be able to pull a strand free.

3. start several inches/CMs up; insert your finger/hook/needle to separate the strand and gently pull to the cut end. Sometimes starting this way is all that is needed and you can then continue in one of the other ways.

Crafters use spinning tools to deconstruct yarns- it is the reverse of the spinning process. I've not used this in a formal way- the weighted technique I described is an approximation of this.


BUT, regardless of the method: ALWAYS wind (loosely) as you go. This process has a way of creating tangles.

As a final step, I always re-wind the balls so the yarn is back to the "right direction;" just like a feather or a strand of hair, yarn has a smooth direction and a rough one. I prefer the look of my pieces when the yarn comes to my hand hand smooth, instead of rough.

The essential part is to wind loosely- there is nothing worse than finishing a piece and finding that it will not even block to the specified dimensions.
Jan 15, 2012 13:12:12   #
btibbs70
 
NJgardengal wrote:
Several ways
Ok. Smarty Puhtarty, can you give some instructions?


Jan 15, 2012 13:17:37   #
NJgardengal
 
Whoops - I'd hit the mouse by mistake before I even got going....
cute laughing lion!
Jan 15, 2012 13:58:19   #
btibbs70
 
NJgardengal wrote:
...The essential part is to wind loosely- there is nothing worse than finishing a piece and finding that it will not even block to the specified dimensions.
Ooo, thank you. Will try that.
Hey!?! How were you able to post a reply before my first response to your 1st response?
Jan 15, 2012 14:35:48   #
NJgardengal
 
No magic. and no way do I type that quickly!

When I accidentally hit the mouse, I just went in to edit my reply. So. I guess, I was just finishing up when you commented.

More important-let me know how these methods work for you.
 
Jan 15, 2012 19:02:15   #
btibbs70
 
NJgardengal wrote:
....More important-let me know how these methods work for you.
WooHoo Success! I'm a happy camper NOW!


Jan 15, 2012 19:23:27   #
Bekaknits
 
recently i took a six ply to 2 three plys to make a shawl. i took a hair clip and attached the loose end to the skein and wound the 2 strands around my fingers, one on each hand. then as i got that wound, i would release another length and clip it to the skein again. i found if i let it unwind by itself it works better than if i helped it or pulled it apart. less matting.

i wasn't going to tell anyone that i did this because i thought i would get some flack from people that know more than i do, but really it worked well and i like the results.

as was said before, remember to rewind loosely in the right direction.

i hope this helps.

Beka
Jan 15, 2012 22:04:32   #
NJgardengal
 
Your moving animals are adorable!!
Jan 15, 2012 22:38:51   #
Martha French
 
[quote=NJgardengal]

Crafters use spinning tools to deconstruct yarns- it is the reverse of the spinning process. I've not used this in a formal way-


I am at a loss to understand your quote regarding spinning tools to deconstruct yarns.

I have been spinning for over 40 years and have never unspun or deconstructed the spun fibre. Could you please enlighten me as what spinning tools are used and how the end is achieved.

It seems to me that it would be a long and laborious task. I honestly think it would be easier to spin a finer yarn than it would be to unspin it.

One ply yarn can be very fragile, and possible uneven. The plying process of the homespun evens out the yarn, ie finer or thicker sections, as well as evening out the twist and adding strength.

I do not have a spinning group meeting until 26th January, but I will run it past the other ladies to see if they have ever deconstructed or unspun yarn.

Thank you.
Jan 16, 2012 06:21:34   #
IndigoSpinner
 
The spinning tools referred to would be handspindles or a spinning wheel. Spin Off did an article on how to unply yarn in the early 1990s, and they used a warping reel in addition to a spinning wheel.

I agree. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. It' much easier to just spin the yarn the way you want it.

By the way, unspinning yarn this way can lead to a whole list of possible problems with the result. If you're going to weave with it, theres probably no problem. Unplying yarn is almost bound to give you an unbalanced result, which, when knitted, will skew and cause problems.
 
Jan 16, 2012 07:57:28   #
btibbs70
 
Lyne wrote:
...I do not have a spinning group meeting until 26th January, but I will run it past the other ladies to see if they have ever deconstructed or unspun yarn.

Thank you.
Thank you for checking into this.

I unplied (is that a word) the three strands and the one-ply was strong, not at all like when I did a test on a cotton 3-ply that I had on hand. When I tried to knit with it I might as well have been trying to nail Jello to the wall. It fell all apart....way too weak.
Jan 17, 2012 12:34:32   #
Martha French
 
lostarts wrote:
The spinning tools referred to would be handspindles or a spinning wheel. Spin Off did an article on how to unply yarn in the early 1990s, and they used a warping reel in addition to a spinning wheel.


Hey, I do know what spinning tools are. I have been spinning for over 40 years. I have four spinning wheels, and about a dozen spindles, all different weights. Different yarns on all wheels and spindles.
Must check my back copies of Spin Off from the early 1990's and see if I can find the article.

But what a lot of effort, unspinning yarn.
Jan 17, 2012 13:27:10   #
btibbs70
 
Lyne wrote:
...But what a lot of effort, unspinning yarn.
Boy, you're not kidding it's a lot of effort! I don't know how to get different weights from one dye lot, though.
Any suggestion, other than dying my own, would be appreciated.


Jan 17, 2012 23:14:59   #
IndigoSpinner
 
You could buy a fingering or lace weight yarn, use some as-is, add more twist and cable up to a thicker yarn on a spinning wheel. That would be the easiest way to do it.
 
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