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What is the difference between M1 and increas a stitch
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May 6, 2012 14:44:16   #
cammyt
 
I have a hat pattern that calls for increasing 19 stitches after the ribbing is done. The back gives instructions for an M1 and an increase.

I used a technique to increase stitches using a video I watched on the internet, which was to wrap the wool around your index finger, make a loop and then put that loop onto the needles as an extra stitch. I used that to add 19 stitches, however, you can see a tiny hold everywhere I did the increase.

Anybody have an opinion on increasing stitches.
 
May 6, 2012 15:00:21   #
pin_happy
 
You are doing a cast on loop, therefore holes. M1 increase is to pick up the strand between the two stitches, twist and knit or go through the back loop. Check into you tube for both M1 and K1fb.
May 6, 2012 17:19:40   #
StitchDesigner
 
M1--An increase stitch. Using Left Hand needle, pick up the bar between last stitch worked (now on Right Hand Needle) and the next stitch on the left needle. Now, this is important. You MUST knit through the back of this new stitch, otherwise you have made a YO.

Inc--Though this can mean any increase, unless a certain stitch is specified, it usually means KFB, Knit Front and Back.

To do it you will add one stitch by 1st knitting into the front of the next stitch, as normal. Do not remove it from the left hand needle. With the yarn in the back, where it should be, knit into the back of the stitch by sliding the right needle into the stitch behind the left needle.

The only application I have seen for reverse loop is cast on. It fact, that's its name: Reverse Loop Cast-On.
May 6, 2012 17:30:40   #
Cheryl_K
 
As already stated, an M1 is one type of increase. You didn't say what other increase the directions in your pattern gave you. My opinion, however is that an M1 makes the most invisible increase in the knitted fabric of all the increase methods. Knitting into the front and back is a close second, but I can still see it. Guess it depends on whether or not an invisible increase is important to the look of the finished item. If the pattern doesn't specify which to use, I guess you're free to choose. Hope this helps.
May 6, 2012 17:31:57   #
shaney63
 
cammyt wrote:
I have a hat pattern that calls for increasing 19 stitches after the ribbing is done. The back gives instructions for an M1 and an increase.

I used a technique to increase stitches using a video I watched on the internet, which was to wrap the wool around your index finger, make a loop and then put that loop onto the needles as an extra stitch. I used that to add 19 stitches, however, you can see a tiny hold everywhere I did the increase.

Anybody have an opinion on increasing stitches.
I have a hat pattern that calls for increasing 19 ... (show quote)


I usually increase by knitting in the front and back of the same stitch... two knit stitches in one. Another way is to knit or purl into the bar between stitches. Depending on which direction you knit that bar, it may lean left or right... also called M1L and M1R... but for a hat, or the hats I've made, just the K1FB works fine for me.
May 6, 2012 18:04:42   #
Dreamweaver
 
I think that the pattern is telling you to use the M1 method of increasing and that you just have a little typo in the post.... It is not asking you to do a M1 AND an increase but to M1 AS an increase.... The M1 will be invisible, especially since it will also be partially hidden by the raised ribbing....
 
May 6, 2012 18:58:54   #
kiwiannie
 
If the pattern says m1 thats what i do,that way you don't get the holes.
May 7, 2012 08:56:52   #
msusanc
 
Cat Bordhi has a video on YouTube for yet another technique for invisible right & left leaning increases. I think they're called La'rink and La' link. Pretty slick.
May 7, 2012 09:49:19   #
Plague
 
If a method of increasing is not specified then it is very confusing for an inexperienced knitter. (not that cammyt falls into that category). So it would be kind of the pattern maker to specify the way the increase should be accomplished. With that being said, I also like picking up the bar between the stitches because I tend to knit tightly.

Thanks for the Cat info - she rocks!!!
May 7, 2012 10:12:49   #
courier770
 
There are a great many ways to form increases, some being more visible than others. The least visible and nearly always the most "elastic" is the straight up M1, this is why it is favored for hats. Kfb (knit in front and back) is less elastic and slightly more noticeable.

There is a small book that is invaluable to a knitter of any level of experience: The Knitting Answer book by Margaret Radcliffe. Every question you have about knitting will be answered in this small book, including every type of increase and decrease. For it's small price of under $15.00 it's invaluable.
May 7, 2012 10:14:37   #
StitchDesigner
 
Plague wrote:
If a method of increasing is not specified then it is very confusing for an inexperienced knitter. (not that cammyt falls into that category). So it would be kind of the pattern maker to specify the way the increase should be accomplished. With that being said, I also like picking up the bar between the stitches because I tend to knit tightly.



I've seen so many badly worded patterns that I think a requirement for some of these designers must be an inability to walk and chew gum at the same time!

:mrgreen:
 
May 7, 2012 11:01:13   #
courier770
 
Out of curiosity I just leafed through several of the hat patterns I've collected over the years, most of them don't really specify how to increase! Never noticed that before.

Most will state "increase *number of stitches* evenly across"..hmmmmm
May 7, 2012 12:10:13   #
cammyt
 
courier770 wrote:
Out of curiosity I just leafed through several of the hat patterns I've collected over the years, most of them don't really specify how to increase! Never noticed that before.

Most will state "increase *number of stitches* evenly across"..hmmmmm


Yes, that's the reason for my confusion. The back of the book showed both ways but the pattern itself didn't specify what to use.
May 7, 2012 13:49:51   #
ptspraker
 
StitchDesigner wrote:
M1--An increase stitch. Using Left Hand needle, pick up the bar between last stitch worked (now on Right Hand Needle) and the next stitch on the left needle. Now, this is important. You MUST knit through the back of this new stitch, otherwise you have made a YO.

Inc--Though this can mean any increase, unless a certain stitch is specified, it usually means KFB, Knit Front and Back.

To do it you will add one stitch by 1st knitting into the front of the next stitch, as normal. Do not remove it from the left hand needle. With the yarn in the back, where it should be, knit into the back of the stitch by sliding the right needle into the stitch behind the left needle.

The only application I have seen for reverse loop is cast on. It fact, that's its name: Reverse Loop Cast-On.
b M1 /b --An increase stitch. Using Left Hand ne... (show quote)


I saw a pattern, this morning that said,do an Elizabeth Zimmerman M1. Is that different from a M1 that you discribed?
May 7, 2012 14:38:35   #
StitchDesigner
 
Same thing.
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