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Can you help with yfwd / yo ?
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May 22, 2012 05:50:58   #
valeriet
 
Hi
Can someone please help me.
I have checked on YouTube and there seems to different ways of bring the yarn forward.
When I see yfwd in a pattern do I:
1. bring the yarn forward over the needle
2. bring the yarn forward underneath the needle
I am really confused.
Is there a different with yo and yfwd or do they mean the same thing?
I am in the middle of knitting and can't carry on until I know the answer, so please, please I hope someone can help me.
Huge thanks
Valerie
 
May 22, 2012 06:22:08   #
tintin63
 
valeriet wrote:
Hi
Can someone please help me.
I have checked on YouTube and there seems to different ways of bring the yarn forward.
When I see yfwd in a pattern do I:
1. bring the yarn forward over the needle
2. bring the yarn forward underneath the needle
I am really confused.
Is there a different with yo and yfwd or do they mean the same thing?
I am in the middle of knitting and can't carry on until I know the answer, so please, please I hope someone can help me.
Huge thanks
Valerie
Hi br Can someone please help me. br I have chec... (show quote)


Yfwd means just that you bring the yarn forward as if to purl the next stitch without purling.
YO is when you wrap the yarn over the needle - it will produce a hole .
If your pattern calls for yo it will have a decorative pattern in it. Does it?
May 22, 2012 06:29:43   #
valeriet
 
Hi
Thanks so much for your speedy response.
The patten says K5, k2tog, K1, yfwd, sl 1, K1, psso
It's a baby cardigan and it does have a decorative pattern. It's like a cluster of three little holes throughout the cardigan.
But it does not use the expression yo.
So, am i to understand, that if there isn't a decorative pattern, then you put the yarn forward as if doing purl stitches and only put it over the needle when there is a pattern?
Thanks again
Valerie
May 22, 2012 06:36:12   #
tintin63
 
valeriet wrote:
Hi
Thanks so much for your speedy response.
The patten says K5, k2tog, K1, yfwd, sl 1, K1, psso
It's a baby cardigan and it does have a decorative pattern. It's like a cluster of three little holes throughout the cardigan.
But it does not use the expression yo.
So, am i to understand, that if there isn't a decorative pattern, then you put the yarn forward as if doing purl stitches and only put it over the needle when there is a pattern?
Thanks again
Valerie


By doing the yfwd you will be making the stitch without making a hole. it will wrap itself over the needle when you next do a Knit stitch. Any clearer?
May 22, 2012 06:41:46   #
valeriet
 
Yes thank you!! Much clearer.
Just to clarify - when I do yfwd , sl 1, K1, psso - I do it in the same way before the slip stitch?
May 22, 2012 06:45:58   #
tintin63
 
valeriet wrote:
Yes thank you!! Much clearer.
Just to clarify - when I do yfwd , sl 1, K1, psso - I do it in the same way before the slip stitch?


Yes you bring the yarn forward as if to purl but don't purl the stitch. The yarn is now at the front of your work, then you slip the next stitch, so you don't use the yarn , then you knit 1 so you take the yarn back over the needle to enable you do the knit stitch.
 
May 22, 2012 06:53:29   #
valeriet
 
Thanks heaps for your help.
So, on this Youtube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRJzosGV8ac
- will the woman knitting create a 'hole' doing it the way she is doing it?
I can't see the yarn going over the needle at all....what do you think?
May 22, 2012 06:56:26   #
Aggie May
 
valeriet wrote:
Hi
Thanks so much for your speedy response.
The patten says K5, k2tog, K1, yfwd, sl 1, K1, psso
It's a baby cardigan and it does have a decorative pattern. It's like a cluster of three little holes throughout the cardigan.
But it does not use the expression yo.
So, am i to understand, that if there isn't a decorative pattern, then you put the yarn forward as if doing purl stitches and only put it over the needle when there is a pattern?
Thanks again
Valerie

YO and YFWD are exactly the same thing.
YFWD is the English name and YO is the US name.
It is a little confusing but it is that simple.
They are both simply putting the yarn, between the needles, to the Purl position then, in this case, you SL1 then Knit the next stitch which lays the yarn over the needle to create the new stitch and as long as you work it in the correct direction on the next row, you will get the hole you need for your lace pattern.
Hope this helps.
Have fun.
Colleen.
May 22, 2012 07:02:19   #
valeriet
 
Thanks so much Colleen.
The two expressions totally baffled me.
Will happily carry on knitting in the full knowledge that I now understand and won't pull out heaps of knitting like i usually do because it doesn't look right.
Thanks again
Valerie
May 23, 2012 07:12:41   #
marilynzonneveld
 
yfd is yarn in front as if to purl yarn over yo is wrap the yarn once in an anti clockwise motion around the right hand needle pull back as if to knit a stitch then knit stitch on left hand needle as per normal
May 23, 2012 08:33:13   #
Ronie
 
http://www.knittinghelp.com this site really helps me when I have a dilema like this.. I am sure that there are lots of great sites out there as well... this site has videos and written directions. I keep it in my library.. I hope it helps you too...
 
May 23, 2012 08:52:59   #
joycevv (a regular here)
 
I agree with Aggie May. Yfwd is another way of doing a yarn over.
May 23, 2012 09:22:42   #
marilynzonneveld
 
it is basically the same but yarn over creates a bigger hole in the pattern just a matter of preference i guess. :D
May 23, 2012 09:39:08   #
LilgirlCA (a regular here)
 
Aggie May wrote:
valeriet wrote:
Hi
Thanks so much for your speedy response.
The patten says K5, k2tog, K1, yfwd, sl 1, K1, psso
It's a baby cardigan and it does have a decorative pattern. It's like a cluster of three little holes throughout the cardigan.
But it does not use the expression yo.
So, am i to understand, that if there isn't a decorative pattern, then you put the yarn forward as if doing purl stitches and only put it over the needle when there is a pattern?
Thanks again
Valerie

YO and YFWD are exactly the same thing.
YFWD is the English name and YO is the US name.
It is a little confusing but it is that simple.
They are both simply putting the yarn, between the needles, to the Purl position then, in this case, you SL1 then Knit the next stitch which lays the yarn over the needle to create the new stitch and as long as you work it in the correct direction on the next row, you will get the hole you need for your lace pattern.
Hope this helps.
Have fun.
Colleen.
quote=valeriet Hi br Thanks so much for your spe... (show quote)


YFWD in US is not the same as YO. YFWD moves the yarn between the needles so you can slip a stitch 'as if to purl' or 'as if to knit' and does not create a stitch on the next row or a hole on this row. YO in US creates a new stitch on the next row. It will result in a hole on the current row.
May 23, 2012 11:36:59   #
joycevv (a regular here)
 
Since your pattern has three little holes, then the yfwd is definitely referring to a yarn over. Is your pattern from Europe? It would also be keeping the same number of stitches per row that were taken up by the knit two together.
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