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Jul 10, 2012 13:32:46   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Well, I went and bought two pairs of their clearance priced (because mis-matched colours) 14" needles with stiletto points. They arrived today. I immediately used them on a swatch I'd begun last night.
Yes, they are pointy - but I have other, far less expensive, needles that are equally pointy.
Yes, they are gorgeous to look at and to feel.
The problem, from my 66-year-old point of view, is their heft. Had I had them at a younger age, it would have been wonderful! Now though, I have issues with my thumbs/wrists. The extra weight of these luxurious needles is ... daunting. I can't say painful, because I only knit a few 20-stitch rows. I was hoping to use them for scarves; now ... I'm sorry I gave in and bought them at all. :(
 
Jul 10, 2012 13:37:00   #
Homeshppr
 
I'm sad to hear how disappointed you are in your new needles. I'm guessing that because of the mismatched colors and Clearance price, you won't be able to return them?!? You could see if maybe another KP friend would be interested in buying them through the Classifieds. It would be nice if you could recoup some or all of your cost, as I get the feeling you won't be using this pair. :-(
Jul 10, 2012 13:44:04   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
Homeshppr wrote:
I'm sad to hear how disappointed you are in your new needles. I'm guessing that because of the mismatched colors and Clearance price, you won't be able to return them?!? You could see if maybe another KP friend would be interested in buying them through the Classifieds. It would be nice if you could recoup some or all of your cost, as I get the feeling you won't be using this pair. :-(
I hadn't thought that far yet. I will either attempt to return them or just keep them as a tangible reminder that age does not always equate with wise decision-making. Of course, I could blame the company; nowhere on their website do I see any mention of needle weight!
Jul 10, 2012 13:49:13   #
Dreamweaver (a regular here)
 
Glad I didn't see that clearance price deal. I have been wanting to try them myself, but no way would I pay the price. I am very happy with the point on my Harmony woods but thought I would like to try the Signature to compare and maybe consider for some lace knitting. I don't have a real issue with weight that I know of, but I'm also not getting any younger and my dominant left wrist and thumb do have some repetitive issues from the computer. Your experience will allow me to quit wishing and wondering if I "need" these needles. Sorry they were a disappointment.
Jul 10, 2012 14:13:29   #
knittingneedles
 
I just purchased a number of cubics DPNs to try... Hope those will be good.. I too have dreamed of owning a few pairs of Signatures.. great that you have given us a true review ... that decided it for me, too...

Now I can buy more yarn with the $$$$ I save not buying Signatures!!!
Jul 10, 2012 14:24:47   #
Yarn Happy (a regular here)
 
Your disappointment helps all of us not make the same error. I see people using them in videos and makes me wish for some, not any more, we will all learn from your lesson, thank you so much. If they do not take returns you can probably sell or trade them here.
 
Jul 10, 2012 14:30:03   #
CathyAnn
 
Thank you, Jessica-Jean, for the "heads up!" I've wondered if they're worth the $$. I am sorry, though, that you have to go through the bother about what to do with them!

I purchased a pair of ChiaoGoo Red Lace needles when in the middle of my last lace shawl, and immediately went into orbit over them. They are very pointy, lightweight, made of stainless steel with a "flexible, multi-strand, nylon-coated, memory-free steel cable," and are of high quality. I will be getting more of them. They make knitting decreases much easier.

The size 3, 32" needles I bought cost only $8.50 plus $.01 for shipping from handsomefibers.com. They ship immediately and have excellent customer service. I ordered on Saturday and received them on the following Monday! (I have to mention that I live in the same state as handsomefibers.)

On KP, I've only read good things about these needles.
Jul 10, 2012 14:35:56   #
Dreamweaver (a regular here)
 
Well there you go....... 2 rave reviews for the other 2 needles I want to try.... Now if I could just make up my mind what sizes to order....
Jul 10, 2012 14:42:24   #
pugmom5
 
At Stitches South, I was lucky enough to try out some Signature needles. I was not happy with them at all. And I had heard so many good things about them. I was glad I got to try them out, or I would have done like you, and ordered some.
I also got to try out some Knitters Pride Cubics. I fell in love with them. They have a very sharp point, the cables fit from KnitPicks, and I could get the special issue ones...shorter in length. Of course, I bought a set. Love them.
If not for people like you giving a heads up, some people would be buying and be very unhappy.
Jul 10, 2012 14:48:04   #
HandyFamily
 
Jessica-Jean wrote:

The problem, from my 66-year-old point of view, is their heft. Had I had them at a younger age, it would have been wonderful! Now though, I have issues with my thumbs/wrists. The extra weight of these luxurious needles is ... daunting. I can't say painful, because I only knit a few 20-stitch rows. I was hoping to use them for scarves; now ... I'm sorry I gave in and bought them at all. :(


From my 38-year-old point of view (and for a long time it has been so) I only use circulars - for that very same reason. I want to use my wrists for long... and not do harmful things to them.
Jul 10, 2012 14:49:15   #
Yarn Happy (a regular here)
 
pugmom5 wrote:
At Stitches South, I was lucky enough to try out some Signature needles. I was not happy with them at all. And I had heard so many good things about them. I was glad I got to try them out, or I would have done like you, and ordered some.
I also got to try out some Knitters Pride Cubics. I fell in love with them. They have a very sharp point, the cables fit from KnitPicks, and I could get the special issue ones...shorter in length. Of course, I bought a set. Love them.
If not for people like you giving a heads up, some people would be buying and be very unhappy.
At Stitches South, I was lucky enough to try out s... (show quote)


Those of you with places close to see the needles are so lucky, some of us live in areas where there is no knitting shops around, we only have the internet. And that does not always have a happy ending.
 
Jul 10, 2012 14:53:48   #
pugmom5
 
Yarn Happy wrote:
pugmom5 wrote:
At Stitches South, I was lucky enough to try out some Signature needles. I was not happy with them at all. And I had heard so many good things about them. I was glad I got to try them out, or I would have done like you, and ordered some.
I also got to try out some Knitters Pride Cubics. I fell in love with them. They have a very sharp point, the cables fit from KnitPicks, and I could get the special issue ones...shorter in length. Of course, I bought a set. Love them.
If not for people like you giving a heads up, some people would be buying and be very unhappy.
At Stitches South, I was lucky enough to try out s... (show quote)


Those of you with places close to see the needles are so lucky, some of us live in areas where there is no knitting shops around, we only have the internet. And that does not always have a happy ending.
quote=pugmom5 At Stitches South, I was lucky enou... (show quote)


I do understand. My closest LYS used to be over an hours drive away. I was glad My daughter got me the tickets to go to Stitches South Expo...it was over an hours drive away too.
Jul 10, 2012 15:51:02   #
Pocahontas (a regular here)
 
Jessica-J,
I purchased a 'special' from Signature which included a skein of Crystal Palace Panda Silk yarn, a lace scarf pattern and a pair of Signature needles (my choice of circular or straight, choice of size and choice of cable length). I thought it was a very generous offer and I am loving the Signatures (chose #4 Circular 32"). They will come in handy doing lace work. Did not find them to be heavy handed.
I do not plan to make a habit of ordering these very expensive needles. Have a set of Harmony's and love those too. I believe there are pros and cons for everything and personal preferences for each of us.
Sorry they didn't work for you. Hope you can unload them or become accustomed to them.
Jul 10, 2012 17:14:27   #
Jessica-Jean (a regular here)
 
My major error - hindsight being 20/20 - was to jump for the reduced price. While it's true enough that I couldn't care less if the colours are what that size is supposed to be, I didn't think it through. I should have asked the weight of the needles and the weight of that very solid bit of metal on the ends. I just accepted that, "Each needle is constructed from aircraft quality aluminum" meant they'd have the same heft as the Boye and Bates needles I've been using since childhood. WRONG! Those old standbys are hollow in the larger sizes. A solid chunk of aluminum weighs considerably more than a hollow one! It does make a difference.

I may yet go for their circulars or double-points, but - as I said - the famed stiletto points aren't as pointy as all that. I do like the disclaimer at the bottom of the invoice sheet though.

Disclaimer wrote:
Signature Needle Arts, LLC's knitting needles are intended for knitting purposes only. The knitting needles are sharp and should be handled with care, stored wth the pointed end down, out of the reach of children, and should not be left on the floor. The knitting needles should be carried with the pointed end down. The knitting needles sould not be used in a moving vehicle due to the possibility they could cause the puncture of persons or air bags in the case of an accident. The knitting needles should not be stuck in the ear or in other body parts. Signature Needle Arts, LLC hereby disclaims liability for all claims for damages other than for damages provided for in the Uniform Commercial Code breaches of warranties. Signature Needle Arts, LLC's liability shall in no event exceed the price of the knitting needles. SIGNAGTURE NEEDLES ARTS, LLC SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AND DISCLAIMS: (a) ANY OBLIGATIONS WHATSOEVER ARISING FROM TORT CLAIMS OR ARISING OUT OF OTHER THEORIES OF LAW WITH RESPECT TO PRODUCTS SOLD, OR ANY UNDERTAKING, ACTS OR OMISSION RELATING THERETO, SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, LIABILITY FOR THE TORTS OF NEGLIGENCE, MISREPRESENTATION, AND STRICT LIABILITY AND (b) ALL CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL, CONTINGENT AND PUNITIVE DAMAGES WHATSOEVER.
Signature Needle Arts, LLC's knitting needles are ... (show quote)
I'm not screaming at you; that's exactly how it's written! Do you think they've got a lawyer on the payroll? It's certainly not a squib you've ever seen with another company's pointy sticks!!

Off to try them again. Maybe I can learn to like them?
Jul 10, 2012 17:47:25   #
ynotknit
 
Sorry to hear you are not happy with your purchase. I recently treated myself to the Signature circular needles. I only use circs for all my knitting. I must say I do LOVE them. Are they worth the money? Well, that depends on an individual's situation. But IMO, they are a pleasure to knit with. (My other needles are Addi's and I'm thinking of trying the Harmony interchangeables)
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