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Dec 4, 2013 15:24:56   #
sillytilly
 
Question on short rows. Do you always turn and wrap when doing short rows? Or only if it states to wrap? Have only done short rows on circular dish clothes and did not wrap. Doing a shawl with short rows but it doesn't say to wrap. Thank you in advance for any help.
SillyTilly
 
Dec 4, 2013 15:51:23   #
knitgogi
 
The only time I've ever done short rows was on potato chip scarves. It did not call for wrapping--only turning. I turned without wrapping, as per instructions of a lady who had been knitting 50 years. The scarves turned out beautifully.

I've seen this discussed here several times, and some people think you always wrap, but I've seen MANY of the experienced knitters say to wrap only when it says to wrap. Otherwise, just turn.
Dec 4, 2013 16:28:51   #
standsalonewolf
 
i always wrap no matter what keeps from getting holes
unless you are a tight knitter just turn
Dec 4, 2013 16:30:50   #
Colorado knits
 
As in the Wingspan, the hole is part of the design. A few years ago, I made a scarf; instructions were to not wrap the turn; it added to the lace design.

Just do whatever your pattern tells you unless, of course, you like it better wrapped. Make the pattern your own.
Dec 4, 2013 16:42:32   #
sillytilly
 
Just want to thank you for your response. I think I will try it without wrapping and if it doesn't look right to me I will just rip and redo with wrapping. Like you said-I will make it my own pattern.

Thanks again!!!!!
Dec 4, 2013 22:07:28   #
chooksnpinkroses (a regular here)
 
sillytilly wrote:
Question on short rows. Do you always turn and wrap when doing short rows? Or only if it states to wrap? Have only done short rows on circular dish clothes and did not wrap. Doing a shawl with short rows but it doesn't say to wrap. Thank you in advance for any help.
SillyTilly


No, never. I do something similar to 'german short rows' that I have seen on Utube.

;) ;) ;)
 
Dec 5, 2013 00:37:08   #
Joy Marshall
 
Colorado knits wrote:
As in the Wingspan, the hole is part of the design. A few years ago, I made a scarf; instructions were to not wrap the turn; it added to the lace design.

Just do whatever your pattern tells you unless, of course, you like it better wrapped. Make the pattern your own.


The other night I wore one of my wingspans to a card party. A woman moved to my table, looked at my scarf and pointed out a hole! I decided it was not the time or place to tell her that was the designer's decision and I knitted as written. I could have pointed out all the other holes but refrained. There are knitting police everywhere.
Dec 5, 2013 00:44:25   #
Aggie May
 
sillytilly wrote:
Question on short rows. Do you always turn and wrap when doing short rows? Or only if it states to wrap? Have only done short rows on circular dish clothes and did not wrap. Doing a shawl with short rows but it doesn't say to wrap. Thank you in advance for any help.
SillyTilly


The main thing would be to decide what you will do and repeat throughout the whole piece.
Wrap and turn is a process and does not change the stitch count so you decide.
Saying that though, I would be most likely to just turn.
Have fun.
Colleen
Dec 5, 2013 07:05:55   #
tamarque
 
There are many ways to do short rows, none more 'right' than the other. Always a matter of taste and choice. Craftsy offers a class on short row knitter by this Irish woman. She covers 4 different ways to do it.

People like Liam Gatt has a no wrap short row.

Just to mention 2 sources.
Dec 5, 2013 07:08:40   #
HandyFamily (a regular here)
 
I always wrap and turn.
But than I've only done short rows with patterns I created, so... that's how I see it, I guess.
Dec 5, 2013 08:37:14   #
J-Jean
 
Take the free Short Rows course on Craftsy. I believe there are at least 3 or 4 different ways to make short rows shown in this mini course.
 
Dec 5, 2013 09:09:22   #
vermontmary
 
Joy Marshall wrote:
The other night I wore one of my wingspans to a card party. A woman moved to my table, looked at my scarf and pointed out a hole! I decided it was not the time or place to tell her that was the designer's decision and I knitted as written. I could have pointed out all the other holes but refrained. There are knitting police everywhere.


:-D :D
Dec 5, 2013 09:14:10   #
RoxyCatlady
 
If the pattern is predominantly garter stitch, you don't need to wrap; if the end product takes advantage of the holes as a design feature, you don't need to wrap; if the pattern doesn't tell you to wrap- I would probably not wrap.

HOWEVER - your best bet is to look at the photo of the item - do the holes show? do you want them to show? Sadly, so many of the patterns out there are written by non-professionals with little technical writing experience (and I don't mean any insult) and are often written assuming the person reading it "knows" how to knit, or how to do certain things. And lots of them are using abbreviations and not including a list of what those abbreviations mean (assuming everyone knows all the abbreviations) or how to execute some of the stitches. I'm not saying that all patterns should include detailed tutorials, but it doesn't take much to have a "legend" or a "key" at the start of the pattern to explain a few things...
Dec 5, 2013 09:14:38   #
tvarnas
 
Colorado knits wrote:
As in the Wingspan, the hole is part of the design. A few years ago, I made a scarf; instructions were to not wrap the turn; it added to the lace design.

Just do whatever your pattern tells you unless, of course, you like it better wrapped. Make the pattern your own.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Dec 5, 2013 10:31:55   #
sillytilly
 
Thanks to all of you for your input. I will check out the different ways to do a short row so I will know if I run across this again. I couldn't tell by the picture if there were holes where the short rows were. So just decided to work it without wrapping. Worked out great. The pattern was in garter like RoxyCatLady stated. It is so nice to have your support.
SillyTilly
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