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plating on Passap machines ?
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Mar 28, 2016 11:45:40   #
hello fellow knitters
does anyone know how to do plating on a Passap machine (without pushers) ?

I have a Brother KH860 with KR830 ribber and the plating device for double bed I just purchased is not suitable for this machine - only for KR850 it seems (even after enlarging the holes for fixing it on the ribber knitting device).

Since I have a Passap Melba (Duomatic 80 without pushers) I was wondering if there is any easy technique for Passap because I love the effect with ribbing.

Any information in general related to Plating is warmly welcome because it seems fashionable again here in Europe when I see my colleagues sweaters. Would be worth exploring that technique.

thanks in advance for your help.
Mar 28, 2016 11:53:43   #
search on 'weaving' in your knitting machine manuals...another term for 'plaiting'...
Mar 28, 2016 12:40:48   #
Years ago there was a plating eyelet made for Passap machines which involved a split yarn feeder to keep the yarns in the right place.
However, you can thread up two yarns separately in the tension masts, taking one down through the first mast on the left and the other through the last mast on the right and then together through the yarn feeding eyelet. Make sure that the two yarns together are not too thick for the machine to handle. You might have to juggle with settings on the tension masts to keep the yarns where you want them and they might twist but its worth a go to see if it works.
Mar 28, 2016 14:27:45   #
I made a test and the yarns twist even if they are threaded separately in each tension mast...
thanks for your advice anyway
Mar 28, 2016 15:28:50   #
evelynetricot wrote:
I made a test and the yarns twist even if they are threaded separately in each tension mast...
thanks for your advice anyway

I heard that you could try gluing a very thin piece of wood, like a toothpick, on top of the eyelet to keep the strands from twisting. I haven't tried it yet, but one day I'll get around to it.
Mar 28, 2016 21:05:19   #
Here are a few pics of the original Plating Device for the Duo80.... Seldom do you see one for sale...

There was someone that produced a working prototype in plastic ....I remember watching a video of it in operation on the Duo80 machine.....Do not know if they ever went into production though...

I thought of trying a thin rigid piece of plastic...tapered to fit inside of the eyelet.....stabilized at the top of the eyelet to prevent it from rotating....Then using industrial gauge yarn ...Haven't experimented with this as yet..

Mar 29, 2016 04:08:54   #
KateWood (a regular here)

you could contact the seller of this pub and ask if these instructions would work on your km.
Mar 29, 2016 11:38:48   #
thanks a lot I will try and see if I can find one on the net
Mar 29, 2016 15:24:55   #
KateWood wrote:

you could contact the seller of this pub and ask if these instructions would work on your km.

The description has only Japanese models included. It won't work on the Passap because Passaps use eyelets to feed the yarn to the needles.
Mar 30, 2016 13:08:40   #
Today I had the most interesting conversation with a colleague at work.
He explained me that for plating, on one row the yarns are forced to stay in place in a certain order and on the second row they will reverse the yarns. This is why I now unterstand the shape of the plating device for Passap and why my new test yesterday by inserting a piece of cut credit card in the eyelet to separate the two yarns had no effect at all. We really have to use that plating device. Too bad it does not seem to sell anymore. I will go on searching.
thanks for your great help and adivce anyway.
Mar 30, 2016 16:59:09   #
Somebody has made one with a 3-D printer:
Mar 31, 2016 11:30:21   #
very interesting how talented people can do a lot of things.
I have to try and get the pattern so maybe I can have one made.
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