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Sep 24, 2016 10:59:04   #
ChocPieMom
 
Once again the Federal Government has invaded my life unnecessarily. Although these rules took effect in 2007, they’re just affecting me and wanted to give you fair warning!
My front loader washing machine needed to be replaced. I went and bought a new washer—back to a top loader with a large tub. Not long after it was purchased I happened to have to fold laundry from the dryer in the basement laundry room through the first cycle of the new machine after several washings of the new machine. (As I folded I happened to notice an unpleasant unclean odor in my night gown.) The water filled for an unusually short time as I had remembered from my last top loader and the machine sounded terrible when it started “agitating”; I stopped the machine immediately. I looked and could not see any water around my clothes. I attempted to add water to the cycle and even changed to the “deep water wash” (there is no other water level choice) but was unsuccessful at getting the machine to add more water to this load. I ran water in a bucket and 3 buckets later there was enough water to get all the clothes wet. There was only 1/4 of the tub now filled with water and clothes. Not willing to trust my new washer alone now, I brought my knitting to the utility room and sat and knitted through the washing cycle. Sure enough, when the rinse cycle began there was not enough water to see any in the tub with the wet clothes. When I moved the clothes away from the edge, I could see that only the bottom half of the clothes would be rinsed. I added 4 buckets of water, enough to just cover the clothes and let the clothes rinse and spin. I called the appliance store, a reputable store my family and I have dealt with many times. The salesman told me the government only allows 20 gallons of water to be run into the present washers! He told me my solution was to wash smaller loads! This load was 7 sets of shorts and tank tops, underwear, wash cloths and 7 thin towels for me alone, not a large load in my mind. I can’t imagine what a family will do in the name of conservation. https://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/appliance_standards/product.aspx/productid/39
https://cei.org/news-releases/federal-efficiency-rules-ruin-washing-machines

Thanks for letting me vent.
 
Sep 24, 2016 11:04:43   #
cindye6556
 
Excuse me but I consider that a large load. I would have washed the towels and wash clothes in a separate load, if for no other reason than the lint factor.
Sep 24, 2016 11:09:47   #
LydiaKay
 
So several small loads is going to save the planet? If you factor in the additional power used and 20 gal x number of loads, I doubt you have saved anything.
Sep 24, 2016 11:11:22   #
knitminnie
 
With everything going on in our country and the world you would think they could focus on something more important than a washing machine its water level. I for one am so tired of big brother thinking they know best. A bad spell on all of them. I figure some people work really hard to keep their jobs and continue to meddle. My sympathies to you. Take that washer back.
Sep 24, 2016 11:11:56   #
knitminnie
 
sorry I hit the send button twice. My anger.
Sep 24, 2016 11:13:42   #
rkr
 
Respectfully, this is a pretty large load to me too. Even a very tiny person w/a week's worth of clothes as you describe and underwear would be more than adequate.
This doesn't address the newer Gov mandate: I too would be adding more water. Conservation would be better served by placing restrictors on the appliances used in lawn watering, showering times, and similar water-wasters.
 
Sep 24, 2016 11:16:43   #
Sealcookie (a regular here)
 
So do five loads instead of one, now that's conservation.
Sep 24, 2016 11:16:43   #
gdoyle
 
was not aware of this. so I ask why do they sell these washers if you really can't use them? I know there is no answer for this but one would think the manufacturer would take this into consideration when building them. I have a newer front loader and the water adjusts to the load. My DIL has a large top loader and has not encountered any problems with hers..maybe because ours are the 'he' models. but she recently got a recall on hers (GE) for the plug as it may catch on fire, so she has to unplug hers after every use. she has had this washer for 5 years, so kinda late on the recall. I would consider returning the washer for a different model. I know they will do this at most places if you only have it for a short period of time. My original washer turned out to be too large for me so I was able to downsize to the smaller model within 90 days at Sears with no hassle. good luck
Sep 24, 2016 11:27:19   #
Shautzie
 
Get rid of it. As my DS told me once: you can hate it for years, or spend the money and love it.
Sep 24, 2016 11:28:21   #
grammyv
 
When my old top loader bit the dust, the repairman told me about the mandate. He had a pre-mandate re-conditioned machine for about 1/3 of the price of a new one. Happily washing as much at-a-time as I want to! ; ) All the while I'm washing I. . .

Keep calm and keep knitting!
Sep 24, 2016 11:39:56   #
CarolfromTX
 
Politicians want to regulate every aspect of our lives. I sure hope my washing machine lasts if that's what the future holds.
 
Sep 24, 2016 11:43:04   #
krestiekrew
 
...and no chance of this changing until they get a bunch of angry women after the issue/law. Let EPA get their hooks into something it's guaranteed to screw it up. Just fyi, even prescription inhalers have fallen into those meddling hands!
Sep 24, 2016 11:47:17   #
rkr
 
Thank Heaven for Maytag. Mine 45 years old and still works like brand-new...
3 times in all this time my DH took off the front—where Everything mechanical is accessible from the front—to make a very minor repair (like a new belt.)
Sep 24, 2016 11:50:21   #
jinx (a regular here)
 
Interesting. My newish washer will predetermine the amount of water needed for the load. To me it never seems enough as it barely covers the clothes. I have learned to trust it and find I was indeed wasting a lot of water.
Remember the low flush toilets and how everyone hated them and said they would never work? They work and a lot of water is saved from the sewage disposal and septic tanks.
Sep 24, 2016 11:51:03   #
tatsfieldknitter
 
gdoyle wrote:
was not aware of this. so I ask why do they sell these washers if you really can't use them? I know there is no answer for this but one would think the manufacturer would take this into consideration when building them. I have a newer front loader and the water adjusts to the load. My DIL has a large top loader and has not encountered any problems with hers..maybe because ours are the 'he' models. but she recently got a recall on hers (GE) for the plug as it may catch on fire, so she has to unplug hers after every use. she has had this washer for 5 years, so kinda late on the recall. I would consider returning the washer for a different model. I know they will do this at most places if you only have it for a short period of time. My original washer turned out to be too large for me so I was able to downsize to the smaller model within 90 days at Sears with no hassle. good luck
was not aware of this. so I ask why do they sell t... (show quote)


I was surprised reading this thread. I wonder why anyone would choose a top loader unless they had access problems. They appear to be much more expensive than front loaders, even for the small 6kg loads. I only know this because I took a look on line to see if they were available in UK; and yes they are, but pretty rare. Our largest, and usually cheapest, online store AO don't stock them at all! So a bit of a niche market here. My 10kg front loader takes c.50 litres for a full 40º load. Do you have water meters in US? Are they compulsary? Some people here have them, either by choice or because developers of new builds have to have them fitted. If you have a meter you can use as much as you like (AND can afford) so they ration water by affluence. We don't have one so pay flat water rates, and again can use as much as we like. That is until there is a draught and they cut the supply off. (It really does happen here!!!)
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