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Jan 29, 2017 21:42:16   #
Augustgran (a regular here)
 
Of the countries banned that there has been NO terrorism from any of those immigrants in the USA during the past 5 to 10 years?
Did you know your chance of being injured or killed by a Muslim immigrant 1 in 34 BILLION!
Your overall chance of being harmed by a Muslim terrorist (not including immigrants) is less than 1 in 3.4 BILLION!
Where you aware that the other Muslim majority countries that were NOT on the list have either a trump hotel or trump offices there?
So much for no conflict of interest in his policy/orders
 
Jan 29, 2017 21:57:03   #
Revan
 
He is a despicable person and ruining America in so many ways! People need to join together and resist. His immigrant policy is ludicrous and already destroying people's lives. I am ashamed to be an American and my dad fought three wars for this country.
Jan 29, 2017 21:58:59   #
nitchik
 
The situation makes my heart ache. I know something of how those feel who've (illegally) had their green cards confiscated.
Many years ago _I was an immigrant (from Australia) and quite few years later I took my boys home to meet their grandparents as grandpa was dying. I still just had a green card because husband (ex now) had not wanted to bother with citizenship (he has now though) and while in Oz US Immigration decided to change the green cards and all had to re-register per the changes. I was in Australia for an extended visit and did not know. Understandably, I was pulled out of line and the agent said she was going to send me back. Big fuss. She had no right to do that, just needed to update my card. I ended up calling out to my sons as she shooed them out, "call Dad, have him call Congressman (name) He has the home phone number." (true) Agent changed her tune and issued me with the updated card and released me. Had she done what she wanted to, my life would have been ruined. Would not have been able to come back or see my boys, or the eventual grandchildren.
Got my citizenship, and the official who did my interview confirmed to me that what that agent had done was illegal.
There is a story with each person. A story, a family, many broken hearts, tears that never end...
Jan 29, 2017 22:00:57   #
Beachgirl1000 (a regular here)
 
user17143 wrote:
Of the countries banned that there has been NO terrorism from any of those immigrants in the USA during the past 5 to 10 years?
Did you know your chance of being injured or killed by a Muslim immigrant 1 in 34 BILLION!
Your overall chance of being harmed by a Muslim terrorist (not including immigrants) is less than 1 in 3.4 BILLION!
Where you aware that the other Muslim majority countries that were NOT on the list have either a trump hotel or trump offices there?
So much for no conflict of interest in his policy/orders
Of the countries banned that there has been NO ter... (show quote)


This post should be copied and pasted into any posts in reply to those who are so madly in love with trump.
Jan 29, 2017 22:04:54   #
DebHow78
 
I think he is just trying to keep Americans safe, which is what he is supposed to do. We've had illegals coming in and murdering people and we find they were deported numerous times. We don't want another 9/11 or what happened in Paris.

He isn't saying that he is totally & permanently banning. It is a TEMPORARY ban while they figure out better vetting. Check this out: http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/10/a-timeline-of-73-islamist-terror-plots-since-911/
Jan 29, 2017 22:07:28   #
ChrisGV (a regular here)
 
nitchik wrote:
The situation makes my heart ache. I know something of how those feel who've (illegally) had their green cards confiscated.
Many years ago _I was an immigrant (from Australia) and quite few years later I took my boys home to meet their grandparents as grandpa was dying. I still just had a green card because husband (ex now) had not wanted to bother with citizenship (he has now though) and while in Oz US Immigration decided to change the green cards and all had to re-register per the changes. I was in Australia for an extended visit and did not know. Understandably, I was pulled out of line and the agent said she was going to send me back. Big fuss. She had no right to do that, just needed to update my card. I ended up calling out to my sons as she shooed them out, "call Dad, have him call Congressman (name) He has the home phone number." (true) Agent changed her tune and issued me with the updated card and released me. Had she done what she wanted to, my life would have been ruined. Would not have been able to come back or see my boys, or the eventual grandchildren.
Got my citizenship, and the official who did my interview confirmed to me that what that agent had done was illegal.
There is a story with each person. A story, a family, many broken hearts, tears that never end...
The situation makes my heart ache. I know somethi... (show quote)

Thank God you knew what to do. My heart is broken for so many right now. A heartless man and his henchman controlling something they do not understand
 
Jan 29, 2017 22:16:46   #
K2P2 knitter
 
user17143 wrote:
Of the countries banned that there has been NO terrorism from any of those immigrants in the USA during the past 5 to 10 years?
Did you know your chance of being injured or killed by a Muslim immigrant 1 in 34 BILLION!
Your overall chance of being harmed by a Muslim terrorist (not including immigrants) is less than 1 in 3.4 BILLION!
Where you aware that the other Muslim majority countries that were NOT on the list have either a trump hotel or trump offices there?
So much for no conflict of interest in his policy/orders
Of the countries banned that there has been NO ter... (show quote)


DH and I watched This Week in World News. They pointed out that more terriorists come into this country from Saudi Arabia than any of the countries Trump banned. However Trump does business with Saudi Arabia so he isn't about to ban them. That would cost him money. They also said some Republicans are not happy with Trump because he is writing so many executive orders and bypassing them. Kellianne Conway was just on my local news and said "we need to make sure our country is safe and the people being separated from their families is only temporary". Like it was no big deal. She showed absolutely no sympathy or remorse.
Jan 29, 2017 22:23:21   #
Augustgran (a regular here)
 
DebHow78 wrote:
I think he is just trying to keep Americans safe, which is what he is supposed to do. We've had illegals coming in and murdering people and we find they were deported numerous times. We don't want another 9/11 or what happened in Paris.

He isn't saying that he is totally & permanently banning. It is a TEMPORARY ban while they figure out better vetting. Check this out: http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/10/a-timeline-of-73-islamist-terror-plots-since-911/


You completely glossed over the fact that the countries that have been chosen for the "temporary " ban do NOT have trump hotels or businesses.
Other majority Muslim countries that have trump hotels or businesses we're NOT included in the ban!
I guess the illegals like
Timothy mc viegh?
Unibomber?
The AMERICAN born man who shot all those people in Miami
The young man that entered the church an started firing?
You mean THOSE illegals?
Jan 29, 2017 22:41:11   #
DebHow78
 
user17143 wrote:
You completely glossed over the fact that the countries that have been chosen for the "temporary " ban do NOT have trump hotels or businesses.
Other majority Muslim countries that have trump hotels or businesses we're NOT included in the ban!
I guess the illegals like
Timothy mc viegh?
Unibomber?
The AMERICAN born man who shot all those people in Miami
The young man that entered the church an started firing?
You mean THOSE illegals?


I did t gloss over it. I just don't think he had an ulterior motive like you do. I think he sincerely cares about this country.

Timothy McVeigh was 21yrs ago. I think we should look at more recent, or at least since 9/11. Wasn't 9/11 big enough for people in this country???? The aamerican born Tampa shooter was a Muslim, from the several accounts I read. Look at the Timeline I posted and it shows many of the cases over the years. You have to slide your finger on the interactive feature.

I live outside of Chattanooga. That guy was yelling "Allah Akbar" as he shot & killed 5 of our men here.

Why so much hate? Why can't people give President Trump a chance? People seem to care more about the refugees that the people in our country. How about we take care of our vets before the refugees, while we are at it?
Jan 29, 2017 22:45:41   #
Beachgirl1000 (a regular here)
 
DebHow78 wrote:
I think he is just trying to keep Americans safe, which is what he is supposed to do. We've had illegals coming in and murdering people and we find they were deported numerous times. We don't want another 9/11 or what happened in Paris.

He isn't saying that he is totally & permanently banning. It is a TEMPORARY ban while they figure out better vetting. Check this out: http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/10/a-timeline-of-73-islamist-terror-plots-since-911/


You need to go back to User17346, the OP. Read the statistics.

Most terrorist attacks in this country have been committed by Americans.

Where is your proof that "illegals" have murdered people and deported numerous times?
Jan 29, 2017 22:47:11   #
Janicesei
 
To all who have a better plan...

Ok, for those against this plan, submit a plan you think will work.

Remember Pearl Harbor? Japanese Americans were interned. Horrible. Unfair. Yup, but who knew what to do when Japan attacked us? Well 9-11 is the modern day Pearl Harbor. Do you do nothing or try to figure out how to keep Americans safe. France, Germany and England are still being attached and many people killed. In America, many plots have been stopped here, but not all. Ask the people killed or maimed in Boston. Do you just let everyone in and hope they will be our friend? They aren't.

Submit your plan. If it is better to keep Americans safe, I'll sign your petition to get it to Trump.

I'm in Houston. I am scared the Super Bowl will be a target. Can you keep the fans safe? Can you keep my kids safe? I don't ignor what is happening to the innocent people who are inconvenienced with this plan but they aren't being killed. But did a terrorist get stopped?

Maybe vetting is good against bad guys, but good guys pay by being looked over too. I have 2 hip replacements and I'm paying the price too. I'm pulled out at the airport and practically strip searched. Had to take pants and shirt off one time. I get swabbed for explosives every time too. I don't like it, but they caught some bad guys that way.

So, show me your plan.

Please don't hate me. My family members served in the military so I could have freedom of speech too.
 
Jan 29, 2017 22:54:18   #
DebHow78
 
Beachgirl1000 wrote:
You need to go back to User17346, the OP. Read the statistics.

Most terrorist attacks in this country have been committed by Americans.

Where is your proof that "illegals" have murdered people and deported numerous times?


I will need to list them separate as I find them. The first was the guy who killed Kate Steinle, deported 5x.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/15/kate-steinle-case-murder-trial-set-for-february/
Jan 29, 2017 22:55:56   #
nitchik
 
ChrisGV wrote:
Thank God you knew what to do. My heart is broken for so many right now. A heartless man and his henchman controlling something they do not understand


And these people don't yet _have a Congressperson to appeal to...
Jan 29, 2017 22:56:46   #
DebHow78
 
Raped a young girl. Deported 10 x.
http://nypost.com/2016/12/31/mexican-man-charged-with-rape-had-been-deported-10-times/

Drunk Driving (which I'm aware many US citizens do, also), killed 2 women, deported 8 times
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/08/illegal-alien-deported-8-times-killed-two-women-in-drunken-hit-and-run/

Another, transporting 110 POUNDS of marijuana, deported 7 times
http://www.cbs5az.com/story/19885665/suspect-in-az-drug-bust-deported-7-times-before

The Supreme Court case Cruz fought where he won a case where an illegal murdered 2 girls, 14 & 16 after raping and torturing them over and over.

Serial rapist in TX, deported 5 times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFPo5NfT2k

I'm not going to look up any more, but would also like to remind you of all of the MS13 gang members
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-ms-13-foot-soldiers-use-surge-to-cross-border-colonize-new-criminal-territory/article/2582396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3afkoSTec

"— 92 percent of MS-13 gang members arrested are in the United States illegally.

— 80 percent of the tens of thousands of Latin American youths who've crossed illegally into the United States and were seized by authorities have subsequently been placed with other illegals, some with ties to the gang."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ms-13-surging-with-influx-of-youths-crossing-border-92-arrested-illegal/article/2606467
Jan 29, 2017 23:05:11   #
sugarbowl
 
DebHow78 wrote:
I did t gloss over it. I just don't think he had an ulterior motive like you do. I think he sincerely cares about this country.

Timothy McVeigh was 21yrs ago. I think we should look at more recent, or at least since 9/11. Wasn't 9/11 big enough for people in this country???? The aamerican born Tampa shooter was a Muslim, from the several accounts I read. Look at the Timeline I posted and it shows many of the cases over the years. You have to slide your finger on the interactive feature.

I live outside of Chattanooga. That guy was yelling "Allah Akbar" as he shot & killed 5 of our men here.

Why so much hate? Why can't people give President Trump a chance? People seem to care more about the refugees that the people in our country. How about we take care of our vets before the refugees, while we are at it?
I did t gloss over it. I just don't think he had ... (show quote)


Your argument is Timothy McVeigh killing over 100 plus people including 19 children was 21 yrs ago? So what? Tell those families & those parents who had their babies in the daycare that.

Give DT a chance? A chance to do what- ruin our country?
Why give a despicable lunatic a chance? Unless of course, those who voted for him think similarly.
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