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Jan 10, 2019 13:00:48   #
MarilynKnits (a regular here)
 
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do -- babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and planning -- that equals 6-1/2 hours).

So each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585 a day.However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries). What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6-1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here!

There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nationwide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77 per day / 30 students = $9.25 / 6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student -- a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
 
Jan 10, 2019 13:02:45   #
HOVE
 
NO
Jan 10, 2019 13:09:27   #
crochetknit Deb
 
MarilynKnits wrote:
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do -- babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and planning -- that equals 6-1/2 hours).

So each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585 a day.However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries). What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6-1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here!

There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nationwide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77 per day / 30 students = $9.25 / 6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student -- a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and... (show quote)


They couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher.
Jan 10, 2019 13:10:46   #
Cilscreations (a regular here)
 
There are teachers--and there are teachers. Our school has some very good teachers, and yes, we also have some very bad teachers. The good ones are worth their weight in gold, the bad ones, not so much. But, that is not unusual, just the norm everywhere.
Jan 10, 2019 13:16:10   #
josswoss (a regular here)
 
Why take the state of your country out on the school teachers?
Jan 10, 2019 13:19:42   #
Ask4j (a regular here)
 
U R A JOKE!
 
Jan 10, 2019 13:21:10   #
KathrynDay
 
As a retired teacher, I remember great colleagues. Most all were women, because years ago, teaching was one of the few professional jobs open to women.

My replacement, though, just isn't of the same caliber, and neither are most of the other new teachers that I worked with - and I worked in what were considered "outstanding" school districts. Some new teachers are dedicated and wonderful, yes, but the majority? Not so much. If you are a hard-working young woman now, you have many jobs open to you. Teaching just doesn't pay, considering how much prep work you do (or should do) at home. So no wonder that talented women aren't choosing education as a career. Americans, we get what we pay for. Other countries value teaching more, and they pay more. It's depressing.
Jan 10, 2019 13:29:46   #
knit-knit (a regular here)
 
Glad I read that all the way through........in the beginning I was a little upset. We have teachers in our family, and, believe me, they are not paid enough.........and along with everything else, they should get hazard pay.
Jan 10, 2019 13:30:33   #
Gundi2 (a regular here)
 
the way kids behave today, you could not pay me enough to be a teacher
Jan 10, 2019 13:32:56   #
cavedwellersmum
 
to be fair, there are teachers that don't deserve anything but to be paid as a glorified babysitter, while there are others that go above and beyond,
Jan 10, 2019 13:35:32   #
krashdragon
 
You forgot about all the lesson planning, paper grading, mandatory meetings, staying after classes because teachers cant leave until later than the students, meetings with parents, and most of all being in a classroom with a bunch of people who think they know more than anyone else in the world. Oh, and the hours spent studying for advanced classes and upgrades that are required by the state in addition to getting a degree with an education major and having to pay for all those courses.
I didnt even get to the parents who think they're better than teachers and their kids wouldn't ever do anything wrong....
If you think teachers only work 5 or 6 hours a day, get your arse out there and volunteer to be a teacher aide for free and see how long you last!
 
Jan 10, 2019 13:39:04   #
whale watcher (a regular here)
 
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Jan 10, 2019 13:48:12   #
cavedwellersmum
 
I think what annoys most parents is when we hear how stressful a teachers job is and how they have to take work home with them, ( so do a lot of us, and my job is incredibly stressful, in fact has often given me nightmares, but I love it) and all the after school activities they are responsible for.
When my sons were at primary school, I volunteered as a parent helper ( as I worked nights) and I helped with reading, writing, ran art and craft classes, drove the school mini van to swimming and sports events, and was the soccer coach. ( oh, for a lot of what I did, there was no teacher around)
My family members who are teachers, do a couple of days in the holidays for planning and setting up, but that is all, then take their vacations in the school term. I dont begrudge them that, as originally teachers were not paid for the school holidays, but a lot chose to have their pay annualised, so although it looked like not as much an hour , they were just being paid for the school terms but the pay was spread over the 26 fortnights a year.
Jan 10, 2019 13:51:58   #
bettyirene (a regular here)
 
MarilynKnits wrote:
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do -- babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and planning -- that equals 6-1/2 hours).

So each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585 a day.However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries). What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6-1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here!

There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nationwide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77 per day / 30 students = $9.25 / 6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student -- a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and... (show quote)


I guess you will be "shocked" to hear that my son earns $120.000.00 per year, and he earns EVERY cent of it. Even when school holidays are on, he still goes into school some days to do work. He is a P.E. teacher, and even though the children are still on holidays here, he will be back at work next week......this is besides all the work he does at home on the lap-top....organizing swimming carnivals/athletics....etc - YOU HAVE NO IDEA what you are talking about.
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