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Apr 10, 2019 13:20:30   #
engblom
 
I would want to search for videos about short rows and I wonder what Russian words I should use?
 
Apr 10, 2019 13:27:51   #
Fialka
 
engblom wrote:
I would want to search for videos about short rows and I wonder what Russian words I should use?


Why you don't want to watch them in English,- it would be easier to understand,- isn't it ?!?
Apr 10, 2019 13:33:53   #
Knitting in the Rockys (a regular here)
 
короткое формирование ряда = short row shaping

формирование рядов = shaping rows
Apr 10, 2019 14:18:28   #
engblom
 
Knitting in the Rockys wrote:
короткое формирование ряда = short row shaping

формирование рядов = shaping rows


Thank you!
Apr 10, 2019 14:23:15   #
engblom
 
Fialka wrote:
Why you don't want to watch them in English,- it would be easier to understand,- isn't it ?!?

I am actually searching a specific short rows method and it seems to be difficult to find among the English videos. I was thinking it might be something more common among knitters from any other part of the world not speaking English. The English videos normally just have German, Shadow, W&T, and Japanese short rows and more odd ones are difficult to find.

Besides this, there is one advantage for me with Russian videos: most Russians knit in the same way as me so I am able to use the video directly as it is.
Apr 10, 2019 14:31:34   #
GrumpyGramma (a regular here)
 
engblom wrote:
I am actually searching a specific short rows method and it seems to be difficult to find among the English videos. I was thinking it might be something more common among knitters from any other part of the world not speaking English. The English videos normally just have German, Shadow, W&T, and Japanese short rows and more odd ones are difficult to find.

Besides this, there is one advantage for me with Russian videos: most Russians knit in the same way as me so I am able to use the video directly as it is.
I am actually searching a specific short rows meth... (show quote)


A different short row method? I'd be interested in knowing what it is. Please share when you find it.
 
Apr 10, 2019 14:58:29   #
Knitting in the Rockys (a regular here)
 
engblom wrote:
I am actually searching a specific short rows method and it seems to be difficult to find among the English videos. I was thinking it might be something more common among knitters from any other part of the world not speaking English. The English videos normally just have German, Shadow, W&T, and Japanese short rows and more odd ones are difficult to find.

Besides this, there is one advantage for me with Russian videos: most Russians knit in the same way as me so I am able to use the video directly as it is.
I am actually searching a specific short rows meth... (show quote)


You and I probably knit the same way which has several names: Russian Method, Combined Continental and Eastern European. Most of us who knit by this method use W&T short row method. Especially those of us who have been knitting this way for decades.

My grandmother (paternal) was born and raised in Ukraine (though of Austrian heritage) she made her escape during the Soviet - Ukraine War (1917 - 1921) and initially ended up in Sicily, then came to the United States. She and my grandfather settled in NYC (Brooklyn) where her fellow Slavic neighbors knitted by the same method that she did, which was far different than the way women in Sicily knitted. For a time I knitted with a group that had three Russian born knitters in it and they used the W&T method, even though they were much younger than I. Though those women all learned to knit in Russia.

You may want to try Обернуть и повернуть which is Russian for Wrap and turn.
Apr 10, 2019 19:18:36   #
Fialka
 
engblom wrote:
I am actually searching a specific short rows method and it seems to be difficult to find among the English videos. I was thinking it might be something more common among knitters from any other part of the world not speaking English. The English videos normally just have German, Shadow, W&T, and Japanese short rows and more odd ones are difficult to find.

Besides this, there is one advantage for me with Russian videos: most Russians knit in the same way as me so I am able to use the video directly as it is.
I am actually searching a specific short rows meth... (show quote)


Thank you very much for your nice explanation ! By the way,- I knit in the same way as Russians and I like it ! Good luck to you with your project !
Apr 11, 2019 06:23:53   #
JTM (a regular here)
 
Knitting in the Rockys wrote:
You and I probably knit the same way which has several names: Russian Method, Combined Continental and Eastern European. Most of us who knit by this method use W&T short row method. Especially those of us who have been knitting this way for decades.

My grandmother (paternal) was born and raised in Ukraine (though of Austrian heritage) she made her escape during the Soviet - Ukraine War (1917 - 1921) and initially ended up in Sicily, then came to the United States. She and my grandfather settled in NYC (Brooklyn) where her fellow Slavic neighbors knitted by the same method that she did, which was far different than the way women in Sicily knitted. For a time I knitted with a group that had three Russian born knitters in it and they used the W&T method, even though they were much younger than I. Though those women all learned to knit in Russia.

You may want to try Обернуть и повернуть which is Russian for Wrap and turn.
You and I probably knit the same way which has sev... (show quote)


Not all of us (Combined Continental) use W&T for short rows. I much prefer the technique that is found in the Fish Lips Kiss Heel pattern, only $1.00 through Ravelry.
Apr 11, 2019 09:57:10   #
GrumpyGramma (a regular here)
 
JTM wrote:
Not all of us (Combined Continental) use W&T for short rows. I much prefer the technique that is found in the Fish Lips Kiss Heel pattern, only $1.00 through Ravelry.


The short rows used in FLK are called shadow wraps.
Apr 11, 2019 13:57:25   #
Ask4j
 
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Apr 11, 2019 23:23:30   #
Nanamel14 (a regular here)
 
GrumpyGramma wrote:
A different short row method? I'd be interested in knowing what it is. Please share when you find it.


I agree, I'm always keen to try a new to me method
Apr 11, 2019 23:25:28   #
Nanamel14 (a regular here)
 
GrumpyGramma wrote:
The short rows used in FLK are called shadow wraps.


Or sometimes called "twin stitch" sometimes the same style goes by different names
Apr 12, 2019 00:31:51   #
GrumpyGramma (a regular here)
 
Nanamel14 wrote:
Or sometimes called "twin stitch" sometimes the same style goes by different names


Quite true. I guess some people would call German short rows double stitch short rows.
Apr 16, 2019 04:10:51   #
engblom
 
Knitting in the Rockys wrote:
You and I probably knit the same way which has several names: Russian Method, Combined Continental and Eastern European. Most of us who knit by this method use W&T short row method. Especially those of us who have been knitting this way for decades.

Somehow I think that most have moved away from W&T regardless of ethnicity. I have watched several videos of Russians using short rows for heels and they all use double stitch short rows (aka German short row).
 
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