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May 4, 2019 21:02:40   #
kelsogal
 
This may be old hat for many of you, but new to me.

I'm reading "Knitting Without Tears" by Elizabeth Zimmerman. At the end of Chapter 2 she added a P.P.S., quote "Some directions give you vertical row gauge as well as the horizontal stich gauge. I have yet to find a good use for a vertical row gauge, since vertical measurements are easier to handle in inches."

I have knitted many swatches, never achieving horizontal AND vertical gauge for a specific project. She has set me free! Hope it helps others.
 
May 4, 2019 21:06:14   #
GrumpyGramma (a regular here)
 
kelsogal wrote:
This may be old hat for many of you, but new to me.

I'm reading "Knitting Without Tears" by Elizabeth Zimmerman. At the end of Chapter 2 she added a P.P.S., quote "Some directions give you vertical row gauge as well as the horizontal stich gauge. I have yet to find a good use for a vertical row gauge, since vertical measurements are easier to handle in inches."

I have knitted many swatches, never achieving horizontal AND vertical gauge for a specific project. She has set me free! Hope it helps others.
This may be old hat for many of you, but new to me... (show quote)


Much ado about nothing? I hate counting rows anyhow and only do it if I really have to. That's why whenever possible I do two at a time - socks, sleeves, two fronts and the back .... wait that's three at a time. I've yet to encounter a situation where row gauge matters but that doesn't mean I never will.
May 4, 2019 21:13:00   #
run4fittness (a regular here)
 
I see her point. Length is a bit easier to "fudge" than width.
May 4, 2019 21:51:39   #
wendyacz
 
EZ, knitting saint that she was is the reason I got into knitting again, she has many pearls of wisdom in her books, I think I have all of them!

I have never counted rows in anything, always go by the fit and feel of the garment I am working on.

EZ remains my Hero!
May 4, 2019 22:47:49   #
Susie2016 (a regular here)
 
One time I read one of her books and I was trying to learn about steeking. I wanted to be able to knit a cardigan in the round---and then cut/steek it up the front. She wrote how to do it---and then she said that after you cut it you should "go in another room and lie down for awhile". HEH! That cracked me up! Because you certainly do need to "recuperate" after you cut your first steek!
May 4, 2019 22:58:29   #
knit4ES (a regular here)
 
generally, rows can be handled by measuring length since most projects are knit top to bottom or vice-versa
Projects knit side-to-side do need to match row gauge ... and stitch gauge is not as important
 
May 5, 2019 02:01:32   #
Byrney (a regular here)
 
I have knit things where the instructions are to knit a certain number of rows, (crossover baby cardigans being an example) but there aren't many of those.
May 5, 2019 03:00:18   #
GrumpyGramma (a regular here)
 
Susie2016 wrote:
One time I read one of her books and I was trying to learn about steeking. I wanted to be able to knit a cardigan in the round---and then cut/steek it up the front. She wrote how to do it---and then she said that after you cut it you should "go in another room and lie down for awhile". HEH! That cracked me up! Because you certainly do need to "recuperate" after you cut your first steek!


I did a practice steek on a tube made of acrylic yarn. By the time my cardigan knit in the round was ready for steeking, I was ready to do it! It was soooooooooooo cool! I enjoyed it immensely. I'm looking forward to doing it again. I'm weird, I know. Maybe I'll get the buttons on that cardi before fall. Sewing on buttons isn't as much fun as cutting my knitting.
May 5, 2019 05:45:03   #
jemima (a regular here)
 
I am a strict row counter Especially when knitting fronts of a cardigan if knitted separately or sleeves. I prefer this way and not to rely on measuring alone .
May 5, 2019 06:18:15   #
longbeachdesigns
 
She is a true joy to read - I have all of her books!
May 5, 2019 06:32:49   #
darowil (a regular here)
 
Byrney wrote:
I have knit things where the instructions are to knit a certain number of rows, (crossover baby cardigans being an example) but there aren't many of those.


Also items knitted sideways often have a set number of rows and especially if yoke shaping not easy to adjust. So row gauge much more important for these as that determines the width.
 
May 5, 2019 06:57:51   #
martina (a regular here)
 
darowil wrote:
Also items knitted sideways often have a set number of rows and especially if yoke shaping not easy to adjust. So row gauge much more important for these as that determines the width.


I was just about to post this answer. If you couldn’t get row gauge in this instance you’d have a lot of maths involved, or a strange looking item.
May 5, 2019 07:34:05   #
sigridsmith
 
The only reason to count rows is to keep track of pattern repeats but those are usually easy to see as you go. Length measurement is MUCH more important than stitch count. EZ is correct, as usual. Every time I think I have had a brilliant new idea, I discover that she knew about it 50 years ago.
May 5, 2019 09:05:15   #
DeePickens
 
I took a class from her in the late eighties and have her books. Great teacher.
May 5, 2019 09:16:30   #
AdeleRM
 
I love EZ. I am forever grateful that I found her books early-on in my knitting 'career'.
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