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May 30, 2019 09:12:22   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
This is a part of the reason why I want to stay within the EU.

If we leave, we will be more open to trade with the US (and to imports of the food sold there) where safety and health standards are lower. From bread and strawberries to beef and chicken, American groceries often contain added substances that are more tightly regulated – or simply banned – in other countries.

Try the "checkout game" in the link. You may be surprised by what you learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/may/29/chemical-checkout-what-might-be-hiding-in-your-groceries

Liz
 
May 30, 2019 09:41:39   #
tonyastewart
 
While that is true, the unethical and the greedy will find ways to pull in less than prime quality into your area, in this country which I love, the fda releases medications far too soon then turn around and recall them. This tends to happen after millions in lawsuits or deaths or permanenst damage.
May 30, 2019 09:47:15   #
artsea
 
I stay away from US products. Canada has more rules than the US on food.
May 30, 2019 09:51:43   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
tonyastewart wrote:
While that is true, the unethical and the greedy will find ways to pull in less than prime quality into your area, in this country which I love, the fda releases medications far too soon then turn around and recall them. This tends to happen after millions in lawsuits or deaths or permanenst damage.


And that is what our Food Standards Agency is all about. However the laws have to be there in then first place for these agencies to act upon, and allow them to go in and remove these "less than prime quality" goods from the shelves.

I'm afraid that we may be "persuaded" to "loosen" some of these stricter laws in order to allow in US goods that are, at present, banned.
Liz
May 30, 2019 09:52:30   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
artsea wrote:
I stay away from US products. Canada has more rules than the US on food.


I have heard that Canada is turning down a lot of US dairy produce.
Liz
May 30, 2019 10:01:07   #
berigora (a regular here)
 
Very informative and a bit scary! As a rule I prefer to buy locally grown or produced foods (don't we all). I noticed the other day that many of our tinned beans come from the USA - they can stay on the shelves as far as I am concerned as I have no way of knowing what they have been poisoned with on the way from soil to factory. Same goes for American oranges, which are plentiful here until the Aussie citrus season starts. I just don't buy them.
 
May 30, 2019 10:11:09   #
sritchie1145 (a regular here)
 
Here's how I look at it: I am 68 yrs. old. I have eaten from the grocery stores my whole life. My major health issue is copd, which I got from smoking US-grown tobacco. Totally my fault. I guess I'll live til I die, and it probably won't be because I have eaten US food!
May 30, 2019 10:13:33   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
berigora wrote:
Very informative and a bit scary! As a rule I prefer to buy locally grown or produced foods (don't we all). I noticed the other day that many of our tinned beans come from the USA - they can stay on the shelves as far as I am concerned as I have no way of knowing what they have been poisoned with on the way from soil to factory. Same goes for American oranges, which are plentiful here until the Aussie citrus season starts. I just don't buy them.


I agree. We have a wonderful fruit and veg shop in our nearest small market town. I walk past 2 big supermarkets to get to it. As far as possible they try to buy everything 'local' and make sure that everyone knows what is imported and where it came from.

We must continue to support "local" shops like these, so the big stores don't take over.
Liz x
May 30, 2019 10:16:20   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
sritchie1145 wrote:
Here's how I look at it: I am 68 yrs. old. I have eaten from the grocery stores my whole life. My major health issue is copd, which I got from smoking US-grown tobacco. Totally my fault. I guess I'll live til I die, and it probably won't be because I have eaten US food!


That's perfectly OK with me. But it doesn't mean that anyone outside the US has to eat that stuff …... now does it??!!
May 30, 2019 10:19:39   #
Byrney (a regular here)
 
lizcrafts wrote:
This is a part of the reason why I want to stay within the EU.

If we leave, we will be more open to trade with the US (and to imports of the food sold there) where safety and health standards are lower. From bread and strawberries to beef and chicken, American groceries often contain added substances that are more tightly regulated – or simply banned – in other countries.

Try the "checkout game" in the link. You may be surprised by what you learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/may/29/chemical-checkout-what-might-be-hiding-in-your-groceries

Liz
This is a part of the reason why I want to stay wi... (show quote)


I was reading this earlier today. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/04/no-deal-brexit-would-be-catastrophic-uk-farmers-warns-nfu

"The US has said it will only do a trade deal with the UK if it accepts America’s very different food standards, and there are fears that the British government is trying to leave the door open for a possible US deal, which would have a huge impact on UK farmers."
May 30, 2019 10:22:58   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
Byrney wrote:
I was reading this earlier today. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/04/no-deal-brexit-would-be-catastrophic-uk-farmers-warns-nfu

"The US has said it will only do a trade deal with the UK if it accepts America’s very different food standards, and there are fears that the British government is trying to leave the door open for a possible US deal, which would have a huge impact on UK farmers."


This is one of the things that I am most alarmed about, concerning Brexit. Thanks for the link Byrney.

It's just another piece of the information that needed to be put on "the side of that bus" - but wasn't!!!

Liz
 
May 30, 2019 10:32:57   #
katanamama (a regular here)
 
Corporations hire lobbyists to buy Congressional votes that enact or relax laws that financially benefit corporations. Financial gain, not consumers are the priority.

Until the public insists upon Congressional term limits and forbid Congressional members from accepting payoffs from lobbyists that represent big business and special interests, this sad trend will only get worse.

Members of Congress have been known to receive a payoff of $100,000 for a single vote. Until this unethical conflict of interest is stopped we will only receive more of the same.
May 30, 2019 10:38:07   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
katanamama wrote:
Corporations hire lobbyists to buy Congressional votes that enact or relax laws that financially benefit corporations. Financial gain, not consumers are the priority.

Until the public insists upon Congressional term limits and forbid Congressional members from accepting payoffs from lobbyists that represent big business and special interests, this sad trend will only get worse.

Members of Congress have been known to receive a payoff of $100,000 for a single vote. Until this unethical conflict of interest is stopped we will only receive more of the same.
Corporations hire lobbyists to buy Congressional v... (show quote)


Well then - for the sake of all of us out here, who have no vote or say in the whole ghastly, corrupt process, could you (who do have a US vote) all please do something to stop it.
Liz
May 30, 2019 10:48:17   #
katanamama (a regular here)
 
lizcrafts wrote:
Well then - for the sake of all of us out here, who have no vote or say in the whole ghastly, corrupt process, could you (who do have a US vote) all please do something to stop it.
Liz


FYI: Support the Convention of States and support term limits for Congress.
May 30, 2019 10:52:23   #
lizcrafts (a regular here)
 
katanamama wrote:
FYI: Support the Convention of States and support term limits for Congress.


Do you realise that I am from the UK not the US? I cannot support either of these.

Liz
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