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Jun 3, 2019 12:25:59   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
While watching President Trump & the First Lady lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior, over his right shoulder in a small alcove to the back, I noticed an icon like portrait of Our Lady of Perpetual Help with a small candle stand beneath it, many small votive candles flickering. I'm used to seeing such small shrines like this in Catholic & Greek Orthodox churches. I have not been in any Church of England churches, but have gone to services in Anglican & Episcopal churches here in the States & a few in Canada. Is this small alcove shrine in Westminster Abbey there for Catholic visitors or is it part of the faith tradition of the Church? I don't mean to offend with my question & the presence of the shrine didn't offend the Catholic me. I'm just curious. Thank you in advance for anything to enlighten me.
 
Jun 3, 2019 12:28:39   #
knit4ES (a regular here)
 
I have in the past attended Episcopal services... and at least one place had such
Jun 3, 2019 12:35:04   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
knit4ES wrote:
I have in the past attended Episcopal services... and at least one place had such

Thanks. It's interesting to me. So many traditions overlap from one denomination to another.
Jun 3, 2019 12:45:22   #
RosieS
 
Well first I must say that although both Sky news and BBC referred to the “Unknown Warrior” in Britain we always say “the Unknown Soldier”. When Westminster Abbey was built the UK was Catholic so Westminster Abbey was Catholic. In 1540 the first Protestant Bishop was put in place. The worship style in Westminster Abbey is Anglo Catholic “high church” tradition. Your question far from upsetting was an interesting one.
Jun 3, 2019 12:45:24   #
RosieS
 
Well first I must say that although both Sky news and BBC referred to the “Unknown Warrior” in Britain we always say “the Unknown Soldier”. When Westminster Abbey was built the UK was Catholic so Westminster Abbey was Catholic. In 1540 the first Protestant Bishop was put in place. The worship style in Westminster Abbey is Anglo Catholic “high church” tradition. Your question far from upsetting was an interesting one.
Jun 3, 2019 12:45:25   #
RosieS
 
Well first I must say that although both Sky news and BBC referred to the “Unknown Warrior” in Britain we always say “the Unknown Soldier”. When Westminster Abbey was built the UK was Catholic so Westminster Abbey was Catholic. In 1540 the first Protestant Bishop was put in place. The worship style in Westminster Abbey is Anglo Catholic “high church” tradition. Your question far from upsetting was an interesting one.
 
Jun 3, 2019 12:52:41   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
RosieS wrote:
Well first I must say that although both Sky news and BBC referred to the “Unknown Warrior” in Britain we always say “the Unknown Soldier”. When Westminster Abbey was built the UK was Catholic so Westminster Abbey was Catholic. In 1540 the first Protestant Bishop was put in place. The worship style in Westminster Abbey is Anglo Catholic “high church” tradition. Your question far from upsetting was an interesting one.
Well first I must say that although both Sky news ... (show quote)


I know the old churches & cathedrals were originally Catholic until Henry VIII broke with Rome. I guess I erroneously assumed most statues & icon like portraits were removed as visible evidence of papist connections. Church history is so interesting. It was the center of life for communities at that time in history & regardless of denomination, still is in many parts of our world.
Jun 3, 2019 13:01:35   #
RosieS
 
Sorry for the multiple answers in error. I couldn’t exactly answer whether they would be in place in a Church of England as I was brought up by a Catholic father and C of E mother. I went to both churches and although I have often seen them I’m not sure if only in Catholic Churches but I think not.
Jun 3, 2019 13:01:36   #
RosieS
 
Sorry for the multiple answers in error. I couldn’t exactly answer whether they would be in place in a Church of England as I was brought up by a Catholic father and C of E mother. I went to both churches and although I have often seen them I’m not sure if only in Catholic Churches but I think not.
Jun 3, 2019 13:02:24   #
RosieS
 
Sorry for the multiple answers in error. I couldn’t exactly answer whether they would be in place in a Church of England as I was brought up by a Catholic father and C of E mother. I went to both churches and although I have often seen them I’m not sure if only in Catholic Churches but I think not.
Jun 3, 2019 13:12:08   #
Aisles (a regular here)
 
RosieS is correct.

Many of the really old CoE Cathederals will have leftover bits from when they were all Roman Catholic.

One or two of the old Cathederals have defaced statues in them and bullet holes from our Civil war and the beheading of Charles I.
 
Jun 3, 2019 13:45:57   #
Scarlet
 
That's the first time I have heard tomb of the Unknown Warrier. Here in the US we have a Tomb of the Unknown Solider. Both make sense. Interesting.
Jun 3, 2019 13:50:54   #
Montana Gramma (a regular here)
 
I was raised Anglican in Canada and have gone to several Episcopal churches in the US and have never seen a candle shrine in use. Interesting.
Jun 3, 2019 13:57:49   #
Aisles (a regular here)
 
RosieS wrote:
Well first I must say that although both Sky news and BBC referred to the “Unknown Warrior” in Britain we always say “the Unknown Soldier”. When Westminster Abbey was built the UK was Catholic so Westminster Abbey was Catholic. In 1540 the first Protestant Bishop was put in place. The worship style in Westminster Abbey is Anglo Catholic “high church” tradition. Your question far from upsetting was an interesting one.


It's offical title is The Grave of the Unknown Warrior which is often called the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior. There is quite a story about it
Jun 3, 2019 14:12:49   #
Cindy Bower
 
I have seen votive candles burning in some Episcopal churches in the USA. Usually in little red glass cups.
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