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Jun 29, 2019 10:58:09   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
As I have mentioned here & there, I am in recovery from drugs & alcohol. A friend in that fellowship, named Alecia, has been clean & sober for nearly 9 years. She has worked very hard to become the person God wants her to be. She's young enough to be my daughter, but I look up to her strength of faith & her pure spirit despite the past life difficulties that were not of her doing. Her dream job came up - a case manager for a Hospice agency. It is perfect for her. I wrote a letter of reference having worked directly with her in a similar position before my retirement. She interviewed & was offered the job. As a bit of background, she had, in the distant past (19 years ago) been addicted to pain meds. When she first got sober she went to nursing school while caring for 2 kids as a single Mom & working 25-30 hours a week. She truthfully reported her addiction to painkillers & resolved legal charges when applying for her first nursing license. And the Ohio Board of Nursing put her on a 5 year contract which severely limited her job options. She fulfilled all the contract requirements. She was released by the board. This Hospice job was something she mentioned often. She's a great technical nurse but her greater strengths are with people. She's creative, funny, gentle, so tuned in to the emotions of frightened & hurting people. She tells me today that the agency rescinded their offer, as is their right to do. She understands that with her head. But her heart is broken right now. She is so sad I'm worried for her. She is staying with her cousin today while her husband is working. Could those KPers so inclined please pray for Alecia? I'm in tears for her because I know what it's like to do everything required & then some, but to still have some judge or demean you. Can't change it but that doesn't lessen the pain & old shame. Thank you. I'll let you know how she's doing as the days go on. I was her manager; I hired her because of her heart as well as her smarts. I'm praying for God to soothe her heart & remind her of how far she's come. There must be something good to spring from this. But right now it just hurts & it sucks.
 
Jun 29, 2019 11:06:28   #
99eagles
 
Done!
Jun 29, 2019 11:07:39   #
elfiestouch
 
What a sad story. I really feel for her. Getting addicted to painkillers is not always the patients fault. I went to two different Pain-Management
Clinics, and if I would have listened to those Doctors, I would probably be addicted too. Sure hope she finds a great job soon, since she has already shown that she can be trusted. Let's all pray for her. Please keep us informed.
Jun 29, 2019 11:14:01   #
grfew
 
Prayers certainly. She has overcome a lot-I pray this will not deter her path!
Jun 29, 2019 11:14:53   #
RookieRetiree (a regular here)
 
charbaby wrote:
As I have mentioned here & there, I am in recovery from drugs & alcohol. A friend in that fellowship, named Alecia, has been clean & sober for nearly 9 years. She has worked very hard to become the person God wants her to be. She's young enough to be my daughter, but I look up to her strength of faith & her pure spirit despite the past life difficulties that were not of her doing. Her dream job came up - a case manager for a Hospice agency. It is perfect for her. I wrote a letter of reference having worked directly with her in a similar position before my retirement. She interviewed & was offered the job. As a bit of background, she had, in the distant past (19 years ago) been addicted to pain meds. When she first got sober she went to nursing school while caring for 2 kids as a single Mom & working 25-30 hours a week. She truthfully reported her addiction to painkillers & resolved legal charges when applying for her first nursing license. And the Ohio Board of Nursing put her on a 5 year contract which severely limited her job options. She fulfilled all the contract requirements. She was released by the board. This Hospice job was something she mentioned often. She's a great technical nurse but her greater strengths are with people. She's creative, funny, gentle, so tuned in to the emotions of frightened & hurting people. She tells me today that the agency rescinded their offer, as is their right to do. She understands that with her head. But her heart is broken right now. She is so sad I'm worried for her. She is staying with her cousin today while her husband is working. Could those KPers so inclined please pray for Alecia? I'm in tears for her because I know what it's like to do everything required & then some, but to still have some judge or demean you. Can't change it but that doesn't lessen the pain & old shame. Thank you. I'll let you know how she's doing as the days go on. I was her manager; I hired her because of her heart as well as her smarts. I'm praying for God to soothe her heart & remind her of how far she's come. There must be something good to spring from this. But right now it just hurts & it sucks.
As I have mentioned here & there, I am in reco... (show quote)


I am praying for her. It’s a sad outcome, but I understand the agency’s action. I’m hoping something else (better) is out there for her.
Jun 29, 2019 11:15:02   #
Cilscreations (a regular here)
 
Our national drug problem is far beyond us and legislations are created to "protect" the public--probably from whatever might go wrong if there is a relapse. However, with the drug problem so widespread and serious who is to say that someone who never tried drugs before might out of the blue decide to try it "just this one time" and then spiral down into serious addiction and be a much worse employee that the rehabbed addict?

Right now I'm trying to figure out how, or if, I should reach out to one of my knitting club members who recently sent me a picture of her unconscious son in a hospital bed with medical contraptions everywhere. He had gone through rehab and was clean, came home and decided to have one more shot, which turned out to be laced with something that put him in this situation. I'm afraid to ask anything about his condition in case it has deteriorated, or is permanent. My heart aches for his wonderful mother and all the stress and pain she has had to endure.
 
Jun 29, 2019 11:15:43   #
fortunate1 (a regular here)
 
How awful!
Most places do two years clean and sober, before you can work for them.
It may have something to do with their personal policy, it does in no way reflect on her. Their withdrawal of offer,means there is something greater for her.
I will keep her in my thoughts and offer blessings for her.
Jun 29, 2019 11:15:58   #
rosemarya (a regular here)
 
I know someone who has been addicted for 20 years and they are in a program that will expunge their record under certain conditions. Is their a program like that in your state. I will pray for her.
Jun 29, 2019 11:38:08   #
martina (a regular here)
 
Prayers for your friend.
Jun 29, 2019 11:39:57   #
martina (a regular here)
 
Cilscreations wrote:
Our national drug problem is far beyond us and legislations are created to "protect" the public--probably from whatever might go wrong if there is a relapse. However, with the drug problem so widespread and serious who is to say that someone who never tried drugs before might out of the blue decide to try it "just this one time" and then spiral down into serious addiction and be a much worse employee that the rehabbed addict?

Right now I'm trying to figure out how, or if, I should reach out to one of my knitting club members who recently sent me a picture of her unconscious son in a hospital bed with medical contraptions everywhere. He had gone through rehab and was clean, came home and decided to have one more shot, which turned out to be laced with something that put him in this situation. I'm afraid to ask anything about his condition in case it has deteriorated, or is permanent. My heart aches for his wonderful mother and all the stress and pain she has had to endure.
Our national drug problem is far beyond us and leg... (show quote)


Why not. Just let her know that she’s in your thoughts , she must feel very lonely and afraid .
Jun 29, 2019 11:46:10   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
rosemarya wrote:
I know someone who has been addicted for 20 years and they are in a program that will expunge their record under certain conditions. Is their a program like that in your state. I will pray for her.

There is. I was in the Ohio Board of Nursing's Alternative Program for Chemically Dependent Nurses. No charges were filed as long as I complied. If one of the required random urine drug screens had ever been positive I would have faced a new charge & all past charges. Ohio's statute of limitations is 6 years. I had monthly reports to send in to my case manager. I had a phone number to call every day in those 3 years to see if I was selected to provide a urine screen. I had to tell every single health care provider of my history & a report had to be faxed by the provider to Columbus after every dental or medical appointment. Once I was able to return to work I had to have the board's permission to interview & then to accept the offer. If the employer wasn't willing to fill out a monthly form & fax it to the board, I couldn't take the job. I had to make a certain number of 12 step meetings weekly & have the group secretary sign it. It was emblazoned on top with the name of the Ohio program. Very embarrassing at first. But since I really just wanted to curl up & die from shame & despair, even seriously considering suicide, the love of my family & my very Catholic fear of going to hell along with the contract requirements kept me going until I actually WANTED to. A fellow nurse would look at me & see the despair she once felt. She'd say "don't quit before the miracle happens." One day about 18 months into my 3 year contract I realized I felt hopeful & while still struggling with shame, it was getting better. So I finished my contract & by the grace of God, I am sober 17 years. God willing, 18 in December. Not to mean God would cause me to relapse. I don't believe that. But I do believe my life is in His hands. One day at a time.
Alecia's legal issues are expunged. But employment applications ask questions. And it is incumbent on all, but especially the recovering person, to be truthful. Addiction is one of the great lies. That you can't live without the stuff. If a person starts telling lies, the big lie will come back & take your life. I never want to have to get sober again. One of the hardest things I've ever had to do.
 
Jun 29, 2019 11:46:42   #
Rescue Mom (a regular here)
 
Prayers coming her way...
Jun 29, 2019 12:09:47   #
charbaby (a regular here)
 
Cilscreations wrote:
Our national drug problem is far beyond us and legislations are created to "protect" the public--probably from whatever might go wrong if there is a relapse. However, with the drug problem so widespread and serious who is to say that someone who never tried drugs before might out of the blue decide to try it "just this one time" and then spiral down into serious addiction and be a much worse employee that the rehabbed addict?

Right now I'm trying to figure out how, or if, I should reach out to one of my knitting club members who recently sent me a picture of her unconscious son in a hospital bed with medical contraptions everywhere. He had gone through rehab and was clean, came home and decided to have one more shot, which turned out to be laced with something that put him in this situation. I'm afraid to ask anything about his condition in case it has deteriorated, or is permanent. My heart aches for his wonderful mother and all the stress and pain she has had to endure.
Our national drug problem is far beyond us and leg... (show quote)

It was likely laced with fentanyl. Or was pure fentanyl passed off as heroin. Cheap. Manufactured in China. Sold online. And delivered to your door. Dealers pack it up & sell it for huge profits. If you inject it, you stop breathing. Hellacious stuff. Another chemical cousin is carfentanil. Used in veterinary medicine to anesthetize large animals. Like horses & elephants. Also most commonly from China. When the addict or curious first time user purchases it, he can't tell by looking at it just what is in that little bit of white stuff. And then they are dead, or brain dead. The hospital where I worked saw so many young people leave after a good length of treatment only to end up like your friend's son. That white stuff is the tangible evidence of the Big Lie of addiction (I can handle it. I won't die. I have to have this to live.) And whatever its chemical name, that damned stuff is just Death. It irreparably damages a family, not just the addict. And so many of our young opiate addicts did very well until someone offered them some pot. They rationalized that it's legal in many places, so it can't be all that bad. Right? Wrong. It causes that pleasure center in tbe brain to wake up & start craving more. For some people, and some of our states, marijuana means money, income, more taxes being paid. For addicts it's just the opening you slip through to what your brain tells you is pleasure. But it's really just pain & death. The ultimate trap.
Jun 29, 2019 12:24:32   #
Montana Gramma (a regular here)
 
Another sad part is if the agency administered a urine test, some casual weed user employees would likely test positive.
But I can believe there is something in her future that will make up for this, getting to it is the challenge. Thank heavens she has you!
Jun 29, 2019 14:29:21   #
marilyngf (a regular here)
 
positive prayers for strength to help her through this
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