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May 21, 2012 11:26:23   #
cgcharles
 
A friend of my husbands was cleaning out his deceased mother's home. He sent me all her craft stash and these were included. I have no idea what they are. The roller thing appears to be home made. I thought it might be for marking darts but the roller is too wide. The long double point needles things are very small diameter and came in a wooden holder. Any ideas?




 
May 21, 2012 11:30:32   #
GR8knitwit
 
Hi, they look like paper pricking tools to me.
for cardmaking :D
making beautiful designs like this
making beautiful designs like this...
May 21, 2012 11:46:37   #
Sine
 
The top one is called a tracing wheel and it is used for sewing. It is used for tracing your pattern markings onto your material. I haven't sewn in years but you used to buy tracing paper (dressmaker's carbon paper), put it between you pattern and your material. You ran that tool around the pattern for pattern markings like darts, buttonholes, etc. There were (are?) three kinds: the saw-tooth with short, stubby teeth used for medium weight fabrics; the needle point with longer needle-like points for heavy fabrics; and the smooth-edge (un-serrated) used for fine or lightweight fabrics or leather, suedes or vinyl.
If the bottom ones had a tiny hook (or needle eye) in one end, I would say they were lei needles (used to string Hawaiian leis), but it doesn't look like they do.
May 21, 2012 11:51:48   #
ompuff
 
Sine wrote:
The top one is called a tracing wheel and it is used for sewing. It is used for tracing your pattern markings onto your material. I haven't sewn in years but you used to buy tracing paper (dressmaker's carbon paper), put it between you pattern and your material. You ran that tool around the pattern for darts, buttonholes, etc.
There were (are?) three kinds: the saw-tooth with short, stubby teeth used for medium weight fabrics; the needle point with longer needle-like points for heavy fabrics; and the smooth-edge (un-serrated) used for fine or lightweight fabrics or leatyher, suedes or vinyl.
If the bottom ones had a tiny hook in one end, I would say they were lei needles (used to string Hawaiian leis), but it doesn't look like they do.
The top one is called a tracing wheel and it is us... (show quote)


Tracing wheel is correct for the top item. And, I think the others are a couple sets of DPNs (double point needles) with their wooden case. Really look a lot like some my gr-mother had when I was a child. In fact I learned to knit on a pair--she called them 'stocking needles' if memory serves
. :)
May 21, 2012 12:03:02   #
StellasKnits
 
Yep, top one most definitely a tracing wheel and I agree the bottom pic looks like old DPNs.
May 21, 2012 12:46:03   #
cgcharles
 
The teeth on the tracing wheel would make awfully big holes in any tracing paper.
If these are DPN's 6 of them would be a size 0. The other 2 are smaller then that so don't know what size they could possibly be. They all have very fine screw type threads on both ends neer the point.
 
May 21, 2012 13:26:22   #
Clickers
 
[quote=cgcharles]The teeth on the tracing wheel would make awfully big holes in any tracing paper.
If these are DPN's 6 of them would be a size 0. The other 2 are smaller then that so don't know what size they could possibly be. They all have very fine screw type threads on both ends neer the point.[/q
They don't do the paper pattern anygood either, as they tear holes in them.
May 21, 2012 13:38:02   #
mirl56 (a regular here)
 
They do make knitting needles in 00 and even 000 size, so maybe the extra 2 came from a different set.

not sure what the holes at the tips could mean, though.
May 21, 2012 14:03:24   #
LittleKid
 
The first thing is a sewing pattern marker. They used a piece of sewing carbon paper between the paper pattern and fabric to mark the pattern. It made tiny serated holes and the carbon marked the fabric. It made dotted lines to show you where to sew.

The second things look like double pointed knitting needles. Have no idea why they would need so many. So they were probably used for something else ????
May 21, 2012 15:32:31   #
ompuff
 
cgcharles wrote:
The teeth on the tracing wheel would make awfully big holes in any tracing paper.
If these are DPN's 6 of them would be a size 0. The other 2 are smaller then that so don't know what size they could possibly be. They all have very fine screw type threads on both ends neer the point.


Well, if they have screw type threading on the ends I don't think my guess of dpns is correct. Sure is curious---hope someone can satisfy our curiosity.
:)
May 21, 2012 15:38:49   #
Dsynr (a regular here)
 
The top one is a patternmaking tracing wheel. It would prick the paper to mark button holes, darts, etc. on designer's patterns. The paper was stiff and green on one side and beige on the other. The grader would make copies of the pattern for all the sizes the factory made. He was sometimes the person who laid out the pattern for the most use of the fabric and the cutter. The paper was quite hard and I got a lot of paper cuts back in my patternmaking days!
Dressmakers may use a version of the tracing wheel that has a curly or wavy edge that has NO points to mark their fabric with tracing paper.
I see from another KP post it was also used to make fancy designs on paper projects, too!
 
May 21, 2012 17:13:15   #
insanitynz
 
the long thin needles are for lace knitting
May 21, 2012 17:29:45   #
Patty Sutter (a regular here)
 
cgcharles wrote:
A friend of my husbands was cleaning out his deceased mother's home. He sent me all her craft stash and these were included. I have no idea what they are. The roller thing appears to be home made. I thought it might be for marking darts but the roller is too wide. The long double point needles things are very small diameter and came in a wooden holder. Any ideas?


The top photo is a pattern tracing wheel. you would put a special 'carbon' paper between your fabric and paper pattern piece, tracing all pertinent marks onto the fabric. especially good for darts and pleats.
The second photo looks like my MIL's case of special fine steel DPN's although I have jewelr's files that look like this too. Are they smooth?
Patty
May 21, 2012 18:45:41   #
thegrape
 
The top one is a tracing wheel. My mother was an awesome seamstress. I remember she had one.
May 21, 2012 18:59:38   #
gcoop
 
Agree, top one is a tracing wheel. I have the same thing that belonged to my Nan.
The other are DPN's used for antique lace knitting. Used for socks, doilies, and knitted edges
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