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Hello everyone. I just got a new to me knitting machine and I am wondering if it even has the right carriage on it because it is a 965i but the carriage says 965 and it also has a k on it. And in the instruction book it says that I need to put the change knob on KC ll to do fairisle but there is no KC l or KC ll on the carriage it is just plain KC. I am very confused and hope you all will tell me that it is ok and I can still do fairisle on this machine. I really can't afford to buy a new carriage if I could even find one.
 

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If you put Brother 965 in 'Search' at the top of this page there is a thread which will answer your question.

Go to: BROTHER KH965 - does anyone out there have one of these (not the i model) that they can send me a picture of. I have a 965 but I think my manual is for the 965i
 

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KateWood said:
If you don't have a KCII option on your K carriage you will just need to manually change the end needle selection tabs on the bottom of your carriage. Is the manual with your machine for a KH965 or KH965i?
If you need the manual for the 965 it can be found this this weblink;

http://www.aboutknittingmachines.com/MoreBrotherManuals.php

Hope this helps
It is handwritten on the top of the manual 965i
 

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Kate;
I forgot to ask you how do I manually change the end selection needles? I'm not even sure what or where they are. Kind of new to this machine knitting, but am loving it. I have down all the basics but now am wanting to learn how to do fairisle and I paid quote alot for this machine so I am hoping I can do it.
Thank you so much everyone for all your help!
 

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I think that I am right in saying the same manual serves both the KH965 and The KH965i. My 965 came with a manual that refers to the KCII which I definitely haven't got. This manual issue has been discussed on here before with others saying the same as me.
I always used just the KCI setting (which I have seen on other machines as just a K) it isn't a problem. If it was a case that I wanted to alter the end needle I just did this with my hand. Doing it this way I always found quick and easy; there wasn't the chance I would forget to alter the cams back; and I always thought that keep altering cams could be putting stress on them.
I'm sure you will be happy with it, and yes it should knit your Fair-Isle.
 

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susanjoy said:
If you put Brother 965 in 'Search' at the top of this page there is a thread which will answer your question.

Go to: BROTHER KH965 - does anyone out there have one of these (not the i model) that they can send me a picture of. I have a 965 but I think my manual is for the 965i
LOL if you have the manual for the 965i and I have the one for the 965 we need to exchange. I found one online for 9.99 and am thinking about buying it to see of they are the same. And I would like to have the right manual anyways, except it is a PDF and I like the real thing. But if it is all I can get I'll take it. 😉
 

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Someone in our club had bought a 965 when they first came out. They came without the port to connect the floppy/PPD units. At the time, due to many complaints, they offered a reasonable upgrade to the newer 965i board to allow usere to use the older devices. You got the board but not a new manual. That's probably how the 965i ends up with the 965 carriage and manual. The differences were covered in this thread as previously mentioned.

http://www.knittingparadise.com/t-134794-1.html
 

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mamatina said:
Yep I now know for sure that I did not get the right carriage after researching it, I have a 965 carriage and not a 965i which I would much rather have.
Ok never mind this now I am not sure again. Just found a good picture of a 965i for sale with the same carriage I have. UGH I give up I am just going to play with it the way it is because it is a nice machine and I would rather be using it then stressing myself out about what's right and wrong with it, at least it works and that is really what counts!
 

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mamatina said:
Ok never mind this now I am not sure again. Just found a good picture of a 965i for sale with the same carriage I have. UGH I give up I am just going to play with it the way it is because it is a nice machine and I would rather be using it then stressing myself out about what's right and wrong with it, at least it works and that is really what counts!
Don't worry about having the wrong carriage.

The only difference between the two machines is as MKEtc.com said "the 965i has the diskdrive/ppd port on it, the 965 doesn't. Plus the 965 doesn't have the KC11 setting on the carriage.

The two models of machine work the same. I think this is why there only seems to be the one manual for the two. Note that the manuals don't have model numbers printed on them.

I also wouldn't worry (at this point in your learning curve) about altering cams. These are small pink things under the carriage that you get a tool to and turn off/on. You really only need to use them if you want a neater edge that is going to be seen.

Program in one of the built in patterns and start knitting. Do swatches; in different yarns; in different stitch patterns.
Learn the basics first and then you can move forward to doing other things. With machines it's a good thing to remember the old saying "learn to walk before you run"

If the bed of your machine is a KH965i then it will have the port and all you are then missing is the KC11 setting on the carriage. I managed perfectly well without this setting for years and loved my 965.
 

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Yes, you can do fairisle with your carriage.
KCII is used when you do single motif so that the end needles are not selected and if they were selected you would end up with long floats on each side of your motif.
KCII is also used when you do tuck stitch with needles out of work. This is called tuck lace.

Because your carriage does not have KCII it will select forward the end needles each time it "thinks" you are at the end of the row (a needle is out of work or the real end of a row). This will really mess up the tuck lace. To not mess up tuck lace you would have to change those cams under the carriage.

For now with your carriage you can knit fairisle. If you want to knit single motif, just push the end needles back to B position after each row. For now just do not do tuck lace (until you learn to move the cams).

See...No problem!

At least you have a carriage. I have a friend who got a 965i with no cord (she got a replacement made at Radio Shack) and no carriage (so she used the garter carriage after she got a replacement cord). There is always a work around if you search hard enough!

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The 965 has a port for the PPD. What it doesn't have is the port for the disc drive but I use mine with the PPD by inserting the cassette.
My instruction book clearly says KH-965 on the front and has © 1992 on the outside back cover.
 

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If you turn your carriage over to look at the bottom, there is a small slot on each end where you can insert the tip of a single transfer tool to turn off the end-needle selection. Cast on a swatch on your machine and knit a few rows, set up for fairisle knitting with two colors, and knit to see if your end needles are selecting every row regardless of your fairisle pattern (that is, needles not used in your design are always coming forward for the contrast color). Unthread your machine, take the carriage off the bed and try turning those end cams to turn this off (about a quarter of a turn if I remember correctly, so the slot will either be vertical or horizontal). Place the carriage back on the bed, carefully rethread, and continue knitting a few rows to see if the end needles still select each row.
 

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mamatina said:
Hello everyone. I just got a new to me knitting machine and I am wondering if it even has the right carriage on it because it is a 965i but the carriage says 965 and it also has a k on it. And in the instruction book it says that I need to put the change knob on KC ll to do fairisle but there is no KC l or KC ll on the carriage it is just plain KC. I am very confused and hope you all will tell me that it is ok and I can still do fairisle on this machine. I really can't afford to buy a new carriage if I could even find one.
You may have the older carriage. Underneath there are two pink or orange cams. When knitting fairisle, if the cams are in the working position (meaning they bring the end needles to the "D" position) it is the same as KC I on other carriages. If however the cams are turned off then it is the same as KC II. You do not need to get another carriage.
 
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