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Dear KP-ers,

Has anyone made this pattern or do you have a link to the translation of the symbols?
I have looked at a number of symbol keys on the web (knitting fool,
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and the yarn council, knitting-bee, etc. and cannot find precisely these symbols which I believe are simply for cables. I would really appreciate it if someone could provide a key or at least explain what the symbols mean.
I believe that the pattern is Russian, but I thought that I maybe they are using Japanese chart symbols.
I'm still in the dark and not good with charts. ugh.

Thank you for any light that you can shed!
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You can search for Russian or Japanese knitting chart symbols. Where did you find the picture and chart?
I found it on Pinterest without a key. And, yes, I have searched the symbols. Thanks!
If you found it on Pinterest it usually leads somewhere, even for enough to show you the language. I would guess typical cable crosses with twisted stitches.
Thank you, MMWRay. I did follow the links but without finding a chart key. I think the pattern does consist of cables and twists. I鈥檓 just looking for the key to the symbols.
There are 1/1RC, 1/1LC, 2/1 LC &RC,

the dashes side to side are purl on the right side and knit on the wrong side. The dashed up and down are knit on the right side and purl on the wrong side.

Nice cable design, I like that one. Thanks for asking.

ETA: the one stitch of the 2/1 is a purl stitch.
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There are 1/1RC, 1/1LC, 2/1 LC &RC,

the dashes side to side are purl on the right side and knit on the wrong side. The dashed up and down are knit on the right side and purl on the wrong side.

Nice cable design, I like that one. Thanks for asking.

ETA: the one stitch of the 2/1 is a purl stitch.
Thanks. I saved it. Now I have to think about what to use it on.
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Thanks. I saved it. Now I have to think about what to use it on.
Hee hee, I saved it too!
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Thank you Run4fittness - your information was very helpful as the links don鈥檛 show the exact symbols as charted which contributed to my confusion! I still have to think about what you are saying as it looks like the chart blocks are taken two at a time, not each individually. Thanks to all for trying to help.
Thank you Run4fittness - your information was very helpful as the links don鈥檛 show the exact symbols as charted which contributed to my confusion! I still have to think about what you are saying as it looks like the chart blocks are taken two at a time, not each individually. Thanks to all for trying to help.
When I say two blocks at a time, I mean that the two stitches in the chart seem to be treated as one move. I have done cables before, and twists, but just confused.
When I say two blocks at a time, I mean that the two stitches in the chart seem to be treated as one move. I have done cables before, and twists, but just confused.
So looking at row #2 in the chart,P1, (RPT) right purl twist, P1, and then with the two blocks/stitches in that symbol?
So looking at row #2 in the chart,P1, (RPT) right purl twist, P1, and then with the two blocks/stitches in that symbol?
What is that next symbol taking up two blocks with diagonal dashes?
What is that next symbol taking up two blocks with diagonal dashes?
Does seeing it bigger help?
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There are 1/1RC, 1/1LC, 2/1 LC &RC,

the dashes side to side are purl on the right side and knit on the wrong side. The dashed up and down are knit on the right side and purl on the wrong side.

Nice cable design, I like that one. Thanks for asking.

ETA: the one stitch of the 2/1 is a purl stitch.
Let me add to the information provided by run4fittness. A little lesson on how to read symbols. As with any chart, each square represents a stitch.
These two symbols 1.
2.
represent a group of two stitches (2 squares on the chart). The unbroken diagonal line represents the direction the stitches will be twisted and which stitch will sit on top. The shorted diagonals indicate which stitches will sit behind. The underline symbol in the blocks with the lower leg of the broken diagonal represent that that stitch will be purled. Symbol 1 would be worked; with cable needle hold one back, K1, P1 from cable needle. Symbol two would be worked; with cable needle hold one front, P1, K1 from cable needle. If there is no underscore showing then both stitches would be worked as knit stitches.

3.
4.

These two symbols represent a group of 3 stitches (3 squares on the chart). The double diagonals are showing the direction of the cross, specifically which stitches will sit on top. Once again the shorter broken diagonal lines show which stitches cross to the back and include the underscore on the lower most leg indicating that that stitch is to be purled. Symbol 3 would read, with cable needle hold one back, K2, P1 from cable needle. Symbol 4 would read, with cable needle hold 2 front, P1, K2 from cable needle.

If you come across cable symbols that show 3 or more unbroken and broken diagonals this usually indicates that these are Japanese charts, where the diagonals and the number of blocks both represent the number of stitches involved.
For example 3 unbroken diagonals leaning left would mean hold 3 front, while 3 short diagonals would mean the stitches are held to the back.
I hope this information will help you decipher future cable symbols when you do not have access to the key.
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You are The Best Cathy! That鈥檚 the information that I needed.
Let me add to the information provided by run4fittness. A little lesson on how to read symbols. As with any chart, each square represents a stitch.
These two symbols 1.
2.
represent a group of two stitches (2 squares on the chart). The unbroken diagonal line represents the direction the stitches will be twisted and which stitch will sit on top. The shorted diagonals indicate which stitches will sit behind. The underline symbol in the blocks with the lower leg of the broken diagonal represent that that stitch will be purled. Symbol 1 would be worked; with cable needle hold one back, K1, P1 from cable needle. Symbol two would be worked; with cable needle hold one front, P1, K1 from cable needle. If there is no underscore showing then both stitches would be worked as knit stitches.

3.
4.

These two symbols represent a group of 3 stitches (3 squares on the chart). The double diagonals are showing the direction of the cross, specifically which stitches will sit on top. Once again the shorter broken diagonal lines show which stitches cross to the back and include the underscore on the lower most leg indicating that that stitch is to be purled. Symbol 3 would read, with cable needle hold one back, K2, P1 from cable needle. Symbol 4 would read, with cable needle hold 2 front, P1, K2 from cable needle.

If you come across cable symbols that show 3 or more unbroken and broken diagonals this usually indicates that these are Japanese charts, where the diagonals and the number of blocks both represent the number of stitches involved.
For example 3 unbroken diagonals leaning left would mean hold 3 front, while 3 short diagonals would mean the stitches are held to the back.
I hope this information will help you decipher future cable symbols when you do not have access to the key.
Very well explained! Glad I read your explanation before I gave one on those lines.
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Very well explained! Glad I read your explanation before I gave one on those lines.
Thank you both!
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You are The Best Cathy! That鈥檚 the information that I needed.
Happy to help.
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