False teeth fitting
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What most people don't know is that it is not necessary to "take them out at night" since that causes gum shrinkage issues. You should have had them available when you first got your teeth extracted and not taken them out other than to clean (no soaking for long periods) and putting them immediately back in.
Have your dentist create a shortened version by removing the normal back molar tooth on both the tops and bottoms.
Liner adhesives are just like wearing a girdle/corsette all the time--they stay in but don't remedy the under lying problem.
Have your dentist create a shortened version by removing the normal back molar tooth on both the tops and bottoms.
Liner adhesives are just like wearing a girdle/corsette all the time--they stay in but don't remedy the under lying problem.
Just like a dentist that doesn't understand that there doesn't need to be "suction" but a good fit instead with you only taking them out to clean. Mine were originally a full "roofed" partial since I was missing all my front teeth with only incisors to "anchor" them to by bent wire which only rotted the incisors. You should have seen the confused look the denturist gave me when I explained I wanted a horseshoe shaped upper just like my lowers. I hated the roof of my partial and was so glad when it broke off giving me more for my tongue and allowing my palette not to be covered (my problem).hempshall said:
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First thing, your dentist doesn't have to wear them, you do and if they are making you gag then they need to be shortened at the back. If you are afraid of them being loose or wobbly, there is a product called polygrip that is like a mold-able glue that holds them in place. I used it for years when I had a partial plate after the first time I sneezed and my plate went flying across the table in front of a house full of company. Thank God nobody dies from embarrassment but that day I will say I came close! If you got your dentures from a dentist, I would make an appointment with a denturist as they are better equipped and knowledgeable about how to fit dentures so they are comfortable and work properly. I know many people that have had this argument with dentists, gone home and carefully "wittled" down the spots that are causing problems with their dentures by using a very sharp knife and lots of patience and testing for fit. When I had my partial plate it was made to anchor around existing teeth, which caused them severe damage. It was also made too wide for my mouth and caused migraine headaches if I wore it for too long. Out came a hammer and a butcher knife and I cut the one tooth off of it that was to fill in a missing tooth at the back of my jaw. After that I had no more problems with migraines or sore spots in my mouth until I could get my bridges done. Now they are all pushing implants which cost crazy amounts of money, but that is no excuse to have people walking around with teeth they can't use properly.
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Strong gag reflex in this KPer, also. I simply sanded down certain areas with #220 paper and then finishing sandpaper. A little filing goes a long way, though. Good luck.hempshall said:
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Thank you for saying that it is not necessary to remove your dentures at night. I remember this advice from the 1940s and have also seen articles today about it being necessary. I have never been in favour of taki g your dentures out at night.disgo said:
I had my falsies inserted in late 1959, back in the dark age when teeth were whipped out rather than saved. Also it was days before dental hygiene was to the fore. Actually my mother did not believe in cleaning the teeth on a regular basis. Take them out at 16 and have falsies, it is better, was her motto and the motto of a lot of other people also.
A long story, teeth damaged as a result of a fall when I was 9 years old, in 1950, upper front teeth cracked at gum line. Unfortunately dentistry not advanced in those days and I did suffer years of misery with ulcerated teeth as a result and had very painful but useless dental treatment. I was also only 19 when my teeth were yanked out and the legal age was then 21. My mother told the dentist to take all my upper teeth out, and all my bottom teeth out. He only removed all the top teeth and the back bottom teeth. But that was a long time ago and I have never left my falsies out at night. In fact I did try it once and found I could not breathe without my teeth in. I had the falsies inserted straight away, the day I underwent the torture.
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It seems to be different treatment in different countries as in the UK you wait about 4 weeks before you are fitted with the dentures never as far as I know straight after having the others extracted. You go back each week for a fitting before eventually getting to eat properly.
How similar we are EveMCooke except I lost my front upper teeth when I was complaining about being hungry and my father started to hit me in the head, so I ducked and watched as my permanent teeth went flying across the red vinyl table in a million pieces like a fine bone porcelain tea cup. One of my brothers had kicked out my baby front teeth and it took over a year for the permanents came in so I only had them for less than a year. You remember "all I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front Teeth". It came out the same time I was missing my baby teeth. My parents couldn't afford such expenditures at the time but they did try caps but my teeth changed color every other month so they were very obvious. I grew up the way all through school and never smiled in school pictures the whole time. My junior year the cheap local lumber/miner dentist convinced my mother to give me the partial so he pulled out all my hereditary baby teeth since my other incisor was X-rayed coming down at an angle and would have come out right between my two front teeth. If he removed it my jaw wouldn't have accepted the partial. After getting it in I couldn't get it back out and my jaw hurt horribly--just thought it was the swelling. After my mother and brother held me down and yanked them out we found one whole upper edge was curved in like a crochet hook tip. The dentist went to "see" the issue and rammed then in and out until I passed out. He filed them down!!! Oddly three decades later the angled incisor came out just as predicted and I still have a dent where it rubbed in my partial. I had always wanted like you to have a complete set but every dentist would talk saving the few teeth I had left and then later the implants were introduced and I was tempted until a friend had them put in and found out from them the issues those create (they had theirs removed). Now its all to late and by the way the old wives tale about you chocking or swallowing them personally is not true. With all my recent respiratory issues I awoke with them in every position possible so it even got to the point I would spit them out in my sleep. Ms. Tess Lost mine several times like the day crossing a five lane busy arterial and having to sneeze due to allergies--they flew out rolling across the street in an extremely dense fog so I couldn't see them. The light was changing and I was afraid the traffic would run over them--God had them waiting for me on the other side of the crosswalk so I snatched them up and wiped them off and back into my mouth!
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Oh, I so have to disagree with you. It's very important to take them out at night. The tissue underneath them needs the stimulation of contact with your tongue. The tissue shrinkage that you mention actually has to do with the bone shrinkage. The tissue just follows that and when you have your teeth removed, the body just continues to slowly take the bone away, unless you have implants. That's just nature's way. I don't mean to be rude, but you wouldn't wear your socks and underwear 24/7. The molars don't have to be removed. The dentist can cut back the palatal flange and as long as there's a slight ridge along there you should have good suction (as long as he doesn't cut it back too short). Have worked in the dental profession for a gazillion years and have seen some pretty ugly tissue when the dentures have not been removed. Sometimes there may be surgery needed, especially if wearing an ill fitting denture. As I mentioned, it's not my intention to be rude. I'm just saying it like it is.disgo said:
And were your dentist's protocol to leave them in right after the extraction or did they wait for "swelling" to subside. That was not recommended when I had mine in the '50s so I never knew any other way other than my grandfather that always had problems with his falling out. His were put in a month after he had his extracted. We had family friend with no teeth that could eat steak without any problem and no bone degeneration what so ever (her nose didn't touch her chin like most that wore dentures by the standard protocol). Not to be rude but having to perform more intubations than you ever did extractions I know all about poorly maintained dentures. What you mention are those that quit taking them out and never had them put in right after extraction. You have not renewed your ACLS in the last two decades because you would know dentures are no longer removed when intubating or just for a brief period in intubator can't perform the procedure well but the dentures are then put back in before ETs are secured.Kitchenergal said:
That is why I mentioned wanting horseshoe shaped uppers. If you dealt with stump care you would know that stimulation of even skin is not necessary. Chinese women bound their feet 24/7 and suffered so when the binding was removed. I wear my compression hose 24/7 and only change them with each shower each morning--if not you see the mess I end up with. Working with burn clients they wore Jobst 24/7 and that would maintain better tissue control and much less scar tissue development. I can tell you personally that jaw bone doesn't shrink with sustained use of dentures but is affected by the frequent tissue changes of the covering gums--just like in the common pyorrhea. I have hygienist and dentist in the family that have come to the same conclusions I have--someday the others will come to the evidence based care that is done from what patients show--just like the Listerine protocols of old.
Having worn "falsies" since a very young age and taking care of elderly clients who had no issues with theirs they were always surprised when I mentioned they must not take them out at night. I have never had a relining and mine fit the same as the day they were put in. My brother just got his recently and has had several relines and suffers all sorts of gum issues but still takes them out at night so I just leave it alone.
My gums were worse than my teeth. Now that I have falsies I'm ready for a second relining on the bottom an first on the top. My gums keep shrinking and when it gets to the point I have to use Polygrip more than twice a day, I know it's time to go back. It's not cheap so I have to wait until I can save what I need then get it done. My dentist was emphatic about taking them out at night for sanitary reasons.
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I had all lowers removed at age 34 or there about, then all uppers removed at 40. I have worn mine continually since the day they took the real ones out, in fact they used a temporary denture in the place of all the bandages. I had a full set of dentures made in 2000 and have never used anything to hold them in such a polygrip. I hate that oozing it does when you eat hot food or drink hot coffee, so just never used the stuff. My teeth fit and feel perfect still today and I can eat corn off the cob, apples, steak, anything I want with them. I take mine out only to clean them twice a day and I rinse my mouth with salt water several times a day to keep the gums toughened up, as suggested by my dentist. In fact, he even made one of my bottom teeth to look just like it was chipped, without the rough edges of course, as I had chipped the real ones as a little girl and was used to feeling that!
I have never had a "slippage" problem or a "sneezing" problem and have always loved the look of these false teeth.
Sleeping without them is a "no no" for me.
I have never had a "slippage" problem or a "sneezing" problem and have always loved the look of these false teeth.
Sleeping without them is a "no no" for me.
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I am the same. my dentist made me a half plate which does not reach the back of my pallet. done deal.
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This is why this is such a good site. Everyone has a different opinion.disgo said:
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Oops! Hit the send button too soon. Meant so say everyone has a different opinion and can express it here. I take no offence because you disagree.Kitchenergal said:
It IS necessary to "take them out at night" to prevent erosion of the bone, while can become so extensive that there would not be enough bone left to allow the use of dentures. I have a step-SIL and had a husband who did not believe that, wore them constantly, and can (could) no longer keep dentures in their mouths. The bone erodes anyway, but at a much slower rate if it is allowed time to regenerate while we sleep. My authority on this other than the above is my father, who was a dentist.disgo said:
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