[Sophieroz]

This is a crochet pattern by Paton. It is for DC-double crochet. But the few photos on Ravelry all look like SC. No wonder my bag looks different and is so big. Can anyone help?

 

[CaroleD53]

The US and the UK have different terminology. Where are you?

 

[wiremysoul]

Searching Rose Bag Patons on Ravelry resulted with "Rose Bag pattern by Patons UK."

UK crochet terminology is different than here in North America.

The YarnForward website has a handy chart: http://www.yarnfwd.com/main/crochet.html

 

[galaxycraft]

http://www.coatscrafts.co.uk/Crochet/Projects/crochet_drawstring_bag.htm

This is written in UK terminology.
For American English terminology, change the Double Crochet to Single Crochet and it will be fine.

 

[bagibird]

I am guessing that you are in USA? The pattern says dc but it is written in UK/Aus terminology. In US terms, dc is sc. You can usually check which terminology is being used by the number of ch at the beginning of the row. If it says "ch1, dc to end of row", then it will be US sc.
Assuming that you are in USA, the stitch equivalents are
UK/Aus US
dc sc
tr dc
dtr tr
and so on.

 

[Sophieroz]

I can't thank you all enough. I am in the USA and had no idea there was that difference. So--I have to rip out and start over. Thanks again. This is a great group.

 

[Sophieroz]

I have a further question. Why would the UK use DC when the "D" is obviously --to me--standing for the word double, and "S" for single? Does it mean something more?

 

[bagibird]

I have always assumed it's because, when you make a UK dc (US sc), you have two loops on the hook when you've put the hook in the specified stitch and pulled the yarn through. For a UK tr (US dc) you have 3 loops on the hook (yarn over, insert hook in specified stitch and pull loop through). Just my opinion....

 

[Sophieroz]

I see what you are saying. It does make sense in another way. I guess it is what you are used to. Thanks.

 

[bagibird]

Good luck with the bag - it's really lovely. Have added it to my list "to-do" - if I live long enough to get there!!

 

[Patricia Cecilia]

My late mum explained it as her British great-aunt had explained it to her: in the UK, crochet stitches are categorized by how many time one pulls through a loop in order to finish the stitch. So a UK double crochet is an American single crochet, a UK triple or treble crochet is a US double crochet, and so on.

In the US one doesn't count the loop pulled up through a previous row/stitch as one of the 'pull through' loops, since every stitch starts out with pulling up a loop through a previous stitch. Americans only count how many pulls it takes to finish the stitch after the initial loop is pulled up.

Sometimes the gauge will clue you in, since if you do US stitches when you should be doing UK stitches, the gauge will never be right row-wise--which is what you found out :-( But now you should be able to fly right through the bag

 

[wyldwmn]

every stitch starts out with pulling up a loop through a previous stitch.

Or around.

 

[Judy M]

Is this the pattern?

http://www.coatscrafts.co.uk/NR/rdonlyres/2C69B50D-582A-408A-ADE4-ABFE9E6754FF/21194/PatonsCrochetBag.pdf

Also a 3.5mm hook would be an E hook in U.S.

 

[Sophieroz]

Yes, that is the pattern. and no gauge is given.(that I can see). Also, the given measurements--4X59 " apply to what? I guess 4" is the bottom width. But the other? Circumference?

Fortunately needle size is usually given in both on hooks. And needles.
Also the hook size will vary with what yarn you use. I am using Sugar'n Cream from my stash and a larger hook so it will be bigger .

 

[Aggie May]

This is a crochet pattern by Paton. It is for DC-double crochet. But the few photos on Ravelry all look like SC. No wonder my bag looks different and is so big. Can anyone help?

You probably need to do UK DCs which are US SCs.
This is how, many years ago, I found out there was a difference in stitch names, when my work looked nothing like the picture.
Patons (or as it was called originally, Paton and Baldwins) was a UK company so their stitch names will be UK.
Hope this helps.
Have fun.
Colleen
PS, Just looked at the pattern and it surely is worked in UK DCs, (US SCs) and the reason I can tell is because, on the first row after the CH, you work the first stitch into the 2nd CH from the hook and when you complete the row, it says CH1 which does not count as a stitch. You work the first DC (SC) into the very first stitch.

 

[Sophieroz]

More questions. Why bother when working in the round with ending a round by turning and going back the other way? (after joining with a ss, of course) Why not join with a slip stitch, chain one, and Sc in first stitch, and go on ? Of course as you continue around, you don't SC into the ss, or chain one. I tried it both ways and it looks the same to me.

 

[bagibird]

If you join with a ss, ch1 and then carry on working in the same direction, you will have a noticeable seam which will start to "lean" to one side. If you join with a ss, ch1, then turn, the seam is less noticeable and doesn't lean.

 

[Sophieroz]

I understand. But--I didn't notice a visible seam as I did when I was turning and going back the other way. That was one reason I did a swatch.. The leaning or slanting--will let you know. I'm not sure it matters on this tote bag.

 

[Sophieroz]

Me again. Did you mean the seam would lean but not the other stitches? I will have to watch. Since I am starting on the bottom, if I don't like the look, I will switch back.

 

[bagibird]

Yes, the seam will lean. As you say, you're starting at the bottom, so after half a dozen rows or so, you can always undo it if you're not happy. Good luck!!