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My DH let me order my first swift and ball winder. I missed Joann's sale. They were out of stock., but I got in on Overstock .com's clearance.http://www.overstock.com/Crafts-Sewing/Swift-Yarn-Winder/3344323/product.html?CID=208011
http://www.overstock.com/Crafts-Sewing/Lacis-Hand-operated-Yarn-and-Fiber-Ball-Winder/3344199/product.html?CID=208011
http://www.overstock.com/Crafts-Sewing/Lacis-Hand-operated-Yarn-and-Fiber-Ball-Winder/3344199/product.html?CID=208011