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Is there an easy way to put in a lifeline? Coral

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I've started Gran's Shawl. Obviously I will have to put in life lines (this is *me* we are discussing here)!!

Does anyone have a tip or two of an easier way than using a wool needle and crochet thread and running it through the stitches a few at a time?
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Using the little hole in interchangeables is fine UNLESS you're also using stitch markers. You cannot thread a lifeline through the stitch markers, since the markers move up with your needles and the lifeline cannot.
I use the tiny (1/4") rubber bands designed for little girl's pony tails. They are so cheap that I don't have to worry about losing them - which happens frequently and the dogs don't mess with them.
headlemk said:
Using the little hole in interchangeables is fine UNLESS you're also using stitch markers. You cannot thread a lifeline through the stitch markers, since the markers move up with your needles and the lifeline cannot.
previous post on this subject:

Hate to differ with you, but is possible to use markers, life lines and interchangeables all at same time. Yes, the L.L. will be run through markers, but that is a good thing if (heaven forbid) you should have to rip back, markers will be there to guide you. I don't know about you, but I have enough markers of varying sizes and types I could use one on every row that has a L.L. and still have them left over. Besides once you place your 3rd or 4th L.L. you'll be removing the first and have all those markers to reuse.

If you're looking for a cheap alternative for markers, I purchased a package of jump rings used for jewelry for about $3 at JoAnn's and it has 100 of them in package. I can even loose one and not fill guilty, and not only that much thinner than the usual rubber or plastic ones sold on knitting aisle for $4 for 10.

Of course with all things that have to do with knitting is a matter of personal preference. For me this is what I do, and works well.
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cindye6556 said:
previous post on this subject:

Hate to differ with you, but is possible to use markers, life lines and interchangeables all at same time. Yes, the L.L. will be run through markers, but that is a good thing if (heaven forbid) you should have to rip back, markers will be there to guide you. I don't know about you, but I have enough markers of varying sizes and types I could use one on every row that has a L.L. and still have them left over. Besides once you place your 3rd or 4th L.L. you'll be removing the first and have all those markers to reuse.

If you're looking for a cheap alternative for markers, I purchased a package of jump rings used for jewelry for about $3 at JoAnn's and it has 100 of them in package. I can even loose one and not fill guilty, and not only that much thinner than the usual rubber or plastic ones sold on knitting aisle for $4 for 10.

Of course with all things that have to do with knitting is a matter of personal preference. For me this is what I do, and works well.
I didn't say you can't used them together, I said you cannot use the little hole in the needle to knit your lifeline in if you are using stitch markers because you cannot run a lifeline THROUGH the stitch marker. I use interchangeable needles, stitch markers and lifelines all the time. I do a lot of lace knitting. IF YOU ARE USING STITCH MARKERS you need to run your lifeline through the stitches with a large needle instead, so that you can go around your stitch markers.

I don't know how you prevent your stitch markers from pulling your lifeline up into your subsequent row knitting if you thread your lifeline through them. I did that once and it totally ruined my knitting. NEVER again. It has nothing to do with cost. It has to do with practicality and physics.
I use a LACING NEEDLE which has a bulb on one end and a large eye on the other. If using circs always remember to put the life line in at the cable (which is much thinner) than at the needle.
altogirl said:
If you use interchangeables and have two cables of the same size, just knit the row as usual, unscrew or unlock your needles and leave the cable in the row as the lifeline. Put your needle tips on the second cable and knit away!
I'm having trouble picturing this. When you put in a thread lifeline, then there are TWO "lines" through the stitches (the lifeline and the needle). So the thread lifeline stays and you knit from the needle.

If you take off the needle tips and leave in the cable, you only have ONE "line". When you put the tips on the second cable, how can you "knit away" - there is no tip to knit FROM.

I thought about leaving one tip on the "lifeline cable" and putting one on the second cable, but you would knit off the "lifeline cable" and the stitches would no longer be on it when you finish the row.

Can someone provide more direction about this?
I bought some long slender sharp needles sold as doll needles. Due to the sharp tip and length of the needle I am easily able to slide the needle through for a life line.
Coral McRae said:
I've started Gran's Shawl. Obviously I will have to put in life lines (this is *me* we are discussing here)!!

Does anyone have a tip or two of an easier way than using a wool needle and crochet thread and running it through the stitches a few at a time?
I slide my work onto the cables and using the needle and thread, eye foremost to minimize snagging, and pick up the entire row at once.

If your pattern has a wrong side purl row, the best time to run a lifeline is after a wrong side row, all the yo's are captured. If you do have to frog back there will be no wondering "is that a yo or isn't it?"
JAAZ said:
I'm having trouble picturing this. When you put in a thread lifeline, then there are TWO "lines" through the stitches (the lifeline and the needle). So the thread lifeline stays and you knit from the needle.

If you take off the needle tips and leave in the cable, you only have ONE "line". When you put the tips on the second cable, how can you "knit away" - there is no tip to knit FROM.

I thought about leaving one tip on the "lifeline cable" and putting one on the second cable, but you would knit off the "lifeline cable" and the stitches would no longer be on it when you finish the row.

Can someone provide more direction about this?
If you are using a 2nd cable as you L.L. you remove the tips and put end caps in place and knit your next row as you normally would. If (heaven forbid) you have to rip back to that spot remove the end cap, put a tip on the end you'd be knitting from, and leave one tip on the needle you'll be knitting to. Once you've finished "reknitting" you can then use the cable again as your L.L. in another row where you wish to use a lifeline.

http://blog.yarn.com/tuesdays-knitting-tip-how-to-use-a-lifeline/

http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29072
JAAZ said:
I'm having trouble picturing this. When you put in a thread lifeline, then there are TWO "lines" through the stitches (the lifeline and the needle). So the thread lifeline stays and you knit from the needle.

If you take off the needle tips and leave in the cable, you only have ONE "line". When you put the tips on the second cable, how can you "knit away" - there is no tip to knit FROM.

I thought about leaving one tip on the "lifeline cable" and putting one on the second cable, but you would knit off the "lifeline cable" and the stitches would no longer be on it when you finish the row.

Can someone provide more direction about this?
If you are using a 2nd cable as you L.L. you remove the tips and put end caps in place and knit your next row as you normally would. If (heaven forbid) you have to rip back to that spot remove the end cap, put a tip on the end you'd be knitting from, and leave one tip on the needle you'll be knitting to. Once you've finished "reknitting" you can then use the cable again as your L.L. in another row where you wish to use a lifeline.

http://blog.yarn.com/tuesdays-knitting-tip-how-to-use-a-lifeline/

http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29072
If you are using regular circ needles just push all your stitches onto the cable and run your lifeline through the stitches there. I don't find it difficult at all.
If you are using regular straight needles, maybe you could put the stitches on a stitch holder and do it there.
I always have 2 lifelines going at once. I never remove the first one until I'm sure there are no mistakes between the first and second one.
nrc1940 said:
A word of caution...

If you use thread/cotton yarn through the holes of interchangeable needles, you won't be able to use any markers. It will keep the markers with that row you've threaded the cotton through. Is this clear as mud?
True, but I keep two sets of markers going. One set will be captured by your first lifeline. When I add another lifeline I put in the second set of markers. When I remove the first lifeline it liberates the first set of markers so I can use it when I add the next lifeline. I admit it's a little fiddley but it works. I'm a firm believer in lifelines. They have saved me much grief and hard work in the past. Aloha... Bev
cindye6556 said:
If you are using interchangeable needles you can run crochet thread through the hole used to tighten the cable to the needle and will be inserted as you knit. Other wise the only other way is once you finish the row is with the needle and thread.
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If you don't have interchangeable a, you can secure the cord with a little tape on the right needle - as you pass the stitches they are carried over the cord. Untape and you're good to go
blawler said:
True, but I keep two sets of markers going. One set will be captured by your first lifeline. When I add another lifeline I put in the second set of markers. When I remove the first lifeline it liberates the first set of markers so I can use it when I add the next lifeline. I admit it's a little fiddley but it works. I'm a firm believer in lifelines. They have saved me much grief and hard work in the past. Aloha... Bev
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I do as well, that way if I have to rip back my markers are there, and I can make sure everything is as it should be. I actually have enough markers that I can use them on every L.L., and still have some left over.
altogirl said:
I saw a suggestion here on KP that I thought was awesome. If you use interchangeables and have two cables of the same size, just knit the row as usual, unscrew or unlock your needles and leave the cable in the row as the lifeline. Put your needle tips on the second cable and knit away!
this is the BEST idea I've seen yet! will definitely try this one!
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