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Hi Guys!

Need some help here, found a really neat pattern for this scarf/hat combo, but am at a standstill.

Row 18 was the first little error I ran into, where it says P6, K19, P4, then it says to K2 but I turned that into K4 to get it to come out right....................

The next little error was row 24 where it says P6, K21, K8 think it should be P8 ...............

Then in row 29 it says K6, P18, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN P2 think that should be P4 to get the rest of row to come out right...................

Then in row 32 says P6, K21, P4 should be P8 to get that row right..................

Then when I got to row 35, I ended with 62 sts, says to place 24 sts onto right needle, however I placed mine on a stitch holder otherwise I had no needles to work with. Then I worked the sts in Row 35 which meant I was working with 12 sts at that point, after that row. Then I slipped the remainder sts, which was 24 onto another stitch holder.

I then worked Row 36 , leaving me with 12 sts, then row 37 was a repeat of 35, which meant I was to decrease by 2 more sts, which would leave me with 10. Then row 38 was repeat of 36, Row 39 was P1, Dec, Cable 8, Dec, P1, which was a decrease of 2 more which would leave me with 8 sts. You keep repeating rows 39-44 for the rest of the pattern, beginning with rows 45-68. Am I Missing something or will I run out of sts????????????

I would appreciate any help you guys can give me! I tried to increase where it says to decrease, but that don't come out right either, end up with way too many sts.

Thanks for the help! Marilyn a fellow knitter


Here is the pattern:

Hat
Cast on 36
Row 1: K6, P8, K8, P8, K6. Row 2: P6, K8, P8, K8, P6.
Row 3: Cable 6, Inc, P6, Inc, Cable 8, Inc, P6, Inc, Cable 6.
Row 4: P6, K10, P8, K10, P6. Row 5: K6, Inc, P8, Inc, K8, Inc, P8, Inc, K6.
Row 6: P6, K12, P8, K12, P6
Row 7: Cable 6, Inc, P9, Inc, 1 st on CN behind, K4, P1 off CN, 4 STS on CN in front of work, P1, K4 off CN, Inc, P9, Inc, Cable 6.
Row 8: P6, K13, P4, K2, P4, K13, P6.
Row 9: K6, Inc, P10, Inc, 1 st on CN and hold in back, K4, P1 off CN, P2, 4 sts on CN and hold in front, P1, K4 off CN, Inc, P10, Inc, K6.
Row 10: P6, K14, P4, K4, P4, K14, P6.
Row 11:Cable 6, Inc, P11, Inc, 1 st on CN hold behind, K4, P1 from CN, P4, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, Inc, P11, Inc, Cable 6.
Row 12: P6, K15, P4, K6, P4, K15, P6. Row 13: K6, Inc, P14, K4, P6, K4, P14, Inc, K6.
Row 14: P6, K16, P4, K6, P4, K16, P6.
Row 15: Cable 6, Inc, P15, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, P4, 1 st onto CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P15, Inc, Cable 6.
Row 16: P6, K18, P4, K4, P4, K18, P6.
Row 17: K6, Inc, P17, 4 sts on CN and hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, P2, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P17, Inc, P6.
Row 18: P6, K19, P4, K2, P4, K19, P6.
Row 19: Cable 6, P20, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P20, Cable 6.
Row 20: P6, K21, P8, K21, P6. Row 21: K6, P21, Cable 8, P21, K6.
Row 22: P6, K21, P8, K21, P6. Row 23: Cable 6, P21, K8, P21, Cable 6.
Row 24: P6, K21, K8, K21, P6.
Row 25: K6, P20, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, P20, K6.
Row 26: P6, K20, P4, K2, P4, K20, P6.
Row 27: Cable 6, P19, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P2, 4 sts on CN hold in Front, P1, K4 from CN, P19, Cable 6.
Row 28: P6, K19, P4, K4, P4, K19, P6.
Row 29: K6, P18, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, P2, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P 18, K6.
Row 30: P6, K20, P4, K2, P4, K20, P6
Row 31: Cable 6, P20, 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 from CN, 1 st on CN hold in back, K4, P1 from CN, P20, Cable 6.
Row 32: P6, K21, P4, K21, P6. Row 33: K6, P21, Cable 8, P21, K6.
Row 34: P6, K21, P8, K21, P6, Tie off.
Slip 24 sts onto right needle un-worked and attach yarn and begin working up the middle of hat decreasing in sts as you go.
Working Up Middle Of Hat:
Row 35: P1, Dec, K8, Dec, P1, turn. Row 36: K2, P8, K3, Turn. Row 37: Rep 35.
Row 38: Rep 36. Row 39: P1, Dec, Cable 8, Dec, P1, Turn. Row 40: Rep row 36
Row 41: Rep Row 35 Row 42: Rep Row 36 Row 43: rep Row 35
Row 44: Rep Row 36 Rows 45-68: Repeat Rows 39-44. (4 repeats)
Row 69: Rep Row 39 Row 70: Rep Row 36 Row 71: Rep Row 35
Row 72: Rep Row 36 except end with K2 instead of K3, turn.
Row 73: P2tog, (K2tog) 4times, P2tog, K6.
Row 74: Cast off first 6 sts, Cast of next 6 sts 2 at a time, Cast off Last 6 sts. Leave long tail for sewing.
Finishing Off the Hat
Fold Row 74 in half with right sides facing each other.
Sew row 74 together.
Then take the tip of the hat by the forehead and roll it slightly under and sew down it gives you a much better look that matches the rest of the hat.


Scarf: Cast on 8 STS Row 1: K1, P6, K1 Row 2: Inc, K6, Inc. (right Side)
Row 3: K2, P6, K2. Row 4: P1, Inc, K6, Inc, P1. Row 5: K3, P6, K3.
Row 6: P2, Inc, Cable 6, Inc, P2 Row 7: K4, P6, K4. Row 8: P3, Inc, K6, Inc, P3.
Row 9: K5, P6, K5. Row 10: P4, Inc, K6, Inc, P4. Row 11: K6, P6, K6.
Row 12: P6, Cable 6, P6. Row 13: K6, P6, K6. Row 14: P6, K6, P6.
Row 15: Rep 13 Row 16: Rep 14 Row 17: Rep 13
Repeat Rows 12-17 until scarf is about 44” long. Row 18: P4, Dec, Cable, Dec, P4.
Row 19: K5, P6, K5. Row 20: P3, Dec, K6, Dec, P3 Row 21: K4, P6, K4.
Row 22: P2, Dec, K6, Dec, P2. Row 23: K3, P6, K3.
Row 24: P1, Dec, Cable 6, Dec, P1. Row 25: K2, P6, K2. Row 26: Dec, P6, Dec.
Row 27: K1, P6, K1. Row 28: Cast off Block your work.
Putting the Hat and Scarf together: Find the middle of the scarf and row 1 of hat and pin together. Take a darning needle and sew the hat and scarf together.



Optional: Make pom poms and sew them to each of the ends of the scarf. I made four pom pom’s and put two on each side.
 

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Hi GalaxyCraft!

I went & loaded the pattern again, but it's identical to same one I have, only correction was a tiny one on one of the rows prior to row 35, the area in question is rows 35 to rows 74. On row 35, I start with 14 sts on my needle, the pattern calls for 10 decreases from row 35 - row 44, which would bring me down 10 sts from 14 on row 35, leaving me with 4 on my needle at that point, then for rows 45 - 68 I am supposed to decrease 4 times more, repeating rows 39-44, decreasing 6 sts for each of the 4 times, that would be 24 more sts down, when I am down to 4 sts after the 10 decreases. I am either really dumb or thick headed, need help here!

For instance, is it tells you in row 35 to take 24 & place on right needle unworked & attach yarn & begin working up middle of hat decreasing as I go. When I do that there are 14 sts in the middle to work with, leaving 24 to place on stitch holder. I am now wondering if I was supposed to work 24 sts in the middle of the hat, then 19 on each of the sides???? But those numbers don't come out right either!

Sincerely, really confused Marilyn
 

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I think the instruction to put 24 stitches on the right hand needle is quite deliberate. I think you are working into these stitches one by one as you do the turns that are written.

Row 35: P1, Dec, K8, Dec, P1, turn. 14 sts reducing to 12 sts
Row 36: K2, P8, K3, turn. 13 stitches
Row 37: Rep 35. 14 sts reducing to 12
Row 38: Rep 36. 13 sts etc

So with each of these rows you are gradually incorporating the 24 stitches you had on each side of this shaping.
 

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Hi Hilary!

Thank you for looking at this pattern!

I don't understand how I can take 24 sts & do 2 decreases in row 35 & end up with 14 sts?

Plus it says you are working up the middle of hat, to me that would be the 14 sts in the middle of the hat, after you take the 24 off as the cable runs up the center of the hat. How do I incorporate the other stitches left on the needle, as it says after row 74 to finish off hat, by sewing row 74 together, what would you suggest on the other stitches? AFter each row is says to turn also!

Thanks again for your help, you seem very knowledgeable!

I was self taught, so kind of hard to understand patterns at times, wish they would have showed the transformation of those rows in a photo, I could understand that!
 

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Ok Marilyn, I will do this step by step. I am really good at visualising things but I realise that most people need to actually see something tangible.

You are creating a curve.
You start with the centre 14 stitches and add in a stitch from the 24 stitches on either side in turns.

You have 62 stitches and you are asked to break your yarn off.
Put 24 sts onto right needle then attach your yarn to the first of the remaining 38 stitches.
Row 35: P1, Dec, K8, Dec, P1, (you now have 36 sts on right needle and 24 on left) TURN (24 right, 36 left now). 60 sts
Row 36: K2, P8, K3, (37 right, 23 left) TURN.
Row 37: Rep 35: P1, Dec, K8, Dec, P1, (35 right, 23 left) TURN. 58 sts
Row 38: Rep 36: K2, P8, K3, (36 right, 22 left) TURN.
Row 39: P1, Dec, Cable 8, Dec, P1, (34 right, 22 left) TURN. 56 sts
Row 40: Rep row 36: K2, P8, K3, (35 right, 21 left) TURN.

Do you see the pattern now? You are reducing the total stitch count by 2 on every odd numbered row and you follow the rest of the instructions until you have just 18 stitches which you will bind off as per Row 74. (This is all stitches now bound off)

I think there is an error in Row 73 - I think it should start with K6, because you have 24 stitches at this point!

Sorry the reply took a while - I had it all typed up twice and things fell over as I posted - so I finally did it in Word and pasted from there.
 

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Hi GalaxyCraft!

I was able to complete the first portion thanks to you & Hilary4! You both are very talented & gifted to be able to see what needed to be done! I went ahead & completed according to what you described & it worked!

My big question now is it looks like the scarf will make up the rest of the hat?????????????? Otherwise the first portion won't fit an adult head! It looks like it starts with 8 sts & I increase it up in stitches rows 2, 4, 6, 8, etc............. So it evidently will get larger & maybe be a v-shape in the back?/// I hope I am uderstanding it correctly! I am going to go ahead & try it, if you have any suggestions either you or Hilary, please let me know, you both have been so helpful!

Thanks again, you are both life savers!!!!!

Marilyn
 

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That's great that you have completed the hat part.

Yes, you are right about the shape of the scarf - then when you have that done, you will sew the two together.

I will look forward to seeing a photo when you are finished.
 

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I have just gone back and reread your question.
If your hat doesn't fit you quite loosely by itself, then something has gone wrong with your gauge. The scarf doesn't make up part of the hat - it is just sewn to it at the back of the neck.
 

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Just a thought if the hat portion is small. Did you use the right size needle and yarn. The pattern calls for 9mm, which is US size 13. That would make a big difference. The yarn called for was Weight Category: 6 - Super Bulky Weight: Bulky, Roving Yarn. Again, this would make a difference in your gauge.
 

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I found a corrected pattern on 11/21/2012 for this Winter Scarbon knitted hat and I thank help from Knitting Paradise staff.
I am now on row 28 where I found a mistake.

It should read P6, K19, P4, K4, P4, K19, P6 to get 62 stiches.

It originally read P6, K19, P5, K4, P5, K19, P6.

I t always helps me to know total of stitches in each row to be
sure I am on track.

Row 1 = 36 stitches Row 2= 36 stitches
Row 3= 40 stitches (increase four times)
Row 4 = 40 stitches

Row 5= 44 stitches ( increase four times)
Row 6 = 44 stitches

Row 7= 48 stitches (increase four times)
Row 8= 48 stitches

Row 9= 52 stitches (increase four times)
Row 10= 52 stitches

Row 11= 56 stitches (increase four times
Row 12= 56 stitches
Row 13= 56 stitches
Row 14= 56 stitches

Row 15 was missing from 11/20/2012 copy and corrected copy on 11/21/2012. Knitting Paradise member Marilyn Leuschke corrected it on her message to Knitting Paradise for help.

Row 15 corrected reads Cable 6, Inc, P15, Put 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1, K4 off CN, P4, Put 1 st onto CN and hold in back, K4, P1 off CN, P15, Inc, Cable 6 = 2 increases and total of
60 sts
Row 16 has 60 stiches total

Now row 17 has 2 increases so total is 62

Rows 18 through 28 have no increases and each row totals 62

Row 29 reads K6, P18, put 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1 ,K4 off CN, P2, Put 1 st on CN and hold in back, K4, P1 off CN, P18,
K6. Total of 60 sts. Is this a mistake since Row 30 has 62 stitches total like the rest of the pattern? Is the mistake in the middle of row 29, and what should it read?

Row 29 begins with K6, P18 and ends with P18, P6

The middle row in row 29 has a total of 12 stiches; therefore
24 stiches plus 12 (inthe middle) plus 24 stitches = 60 stitches and not 62 stitches that has been the pattern.
Anyone who can help me with this problem will make like easier for me and others since it is a popular pattern. It has been very difficult for me because of a few mistakes and is not user friendly with a couple of words that make the directions hard to interpret. Many thanks!!
Suzanne
 

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hopscotchsue said:
Row 29 reads K6, P18, put 4 sts on CN hold in front, P1 ,K4 off CN, P2, Put 1 st on CN and hold in back, K4, P1 off CN, P18,
K6. Total of 60 sts. Is this a mistake since Row 30 has 62 stitches total like the rest of the pattern? Is the mistake in the middle of row 29, and what should it read?

Row 29 begins with K6, P18 and ends with P18, P6

The middle row in row 29 has a total of 12 stiches; therefore
24 stiches plus 12 (inthe middle) plus 24 stitches = 60 stitches and not 62 stitches that has been the pattern.
Anyone who can help me with this problem will make like easier for me and others since it is a popular pattern. It has been very difficult for me because of a few mistakes and is not user friendly with a couple of words that make the directions hard to interpret. Many thanks!!
Suzanne
Marilyn has corrected this row at the beginning of her first post on this thread.
 

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You may just have to note the corrections from page 1 of this post on your copy - I don't think the original website has been update.
 

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Hilary, you are exactly right, I checked the instructions one by one & found mistakes that I noted on this site, the instructions only changed one of the ones I found!

Those were in row 18, row 24, row 29 & row 32. I think those were the ones I found!

Marilyn
 
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