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Thanks Marilyn for helping me with the pattern. I am gonna make that hat and have the desire to make a knitted hat in the round. Always knit using the round circulars, but have never made anything in the round. Scared of the double points!!!!!!!!!! Have started a prayer shawl, but love the ones you have on your site. Where did you find that pattern. Do you prefer any particular knitting needles (wooden vs metal, etc)? Do double points come in shorter sizes? I love this site. Just found it and find myself coming to the computer more often. HA! HA! bulldog (Betty, from Mississippi)