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Jul 17, 2019 23:37:00   #
shepherd wrote:
Evidently your caveat means that no on can disagree with you on this topic. Interesting. I think I will put in a pro-Trump post and then say that no on can say anything negative about it or they will be criticized and/or ignored. A very clever debate technique.

Clever..., or cowardly, with no truth supporting them....
Jul 17, 2019 23:25:44   #
So sweet!! Good luck with your project, and thank you for the link!!
Jul 13, 2019 14:10:36   #
Runner Girl wrote:
Finally, here in NC we must show a photo ID in order to vote starting in 2020! Before then, no. This requirement should be required nationwide. I have to show a photo ID when I visit a physician, have a medical test performed, etc. Why is it so difficult to show one when voting?? This whole excuse that minorities and the elderly would be disenfranchised is pure hooey!

I totally agree - thank you to NC for doing this to help achieve an honest vote. We have the requirement in Indiana.
Jul 13, 2019 14:06:49   #
MissMelba wrote:
Which side of the ticket? Ha Ha. Only joking of course.

I have worked as an election worker on and off for about twelve years here in Florida. The precinct I am assigned to is a small one (we have over 600 precincts in this county) that is based in a section 8 housing facility. In this county a photo ID is required, the list of acceptable ID's is broad, and the ID does not need to be unexpired. We have voters that have a Florida driver license from the 1980's because that was the last time they drove a car, but we accept it. For info, the voter registration card is not acceptable here because it does not have a photo. I am in Broward. We have made the national news several times, sigh. A different county here in Florida had a 105% voter turnout a few elections back. The elections supervisor essentially said that there would be no recount as she did not see anything amiss. This was the year Alan West lost in St. Lucie county. Sadly my own county has had way too many inconsistencies (I am being polite). We also have that paragon of truth DWS.

We need to present an ID for so many mundane tasks that the complaint of 'discrimination' is nothing but political theater and the basis for easy ballot stuffing. We need to take our suffrage rights seriously. Would France or Mexico allow me to vote in their elections? I have been to both countries so shouldn't that make me eligible?

I remember reading about a voter registration drive (one of the Carolinas, I must go research where) that failed miserably. The local elections supervisor hired multiple buses to pick up people and bring them to a registration office to obtain a state issued ID. Despite being well advertised, almost no one showed up. Guess why? Those that wanted to vote already had an ID.
Which side of the ticket? Ha Ha. Only joking of ... (show quote), Broward county..., thank you for the first-hand information! It's incredible what is dismissed as "nothing amiss", and on the other hand there are screams of discrimination at any attempt at honest voter registration tallies.
Jul 12, 2019 14:31:48   #
katanamama wrote:
Voting is a privilege every US citizen should take seriously.

I do object to voting by non-citizens, the dead and multiple votes. I'm still trying to get my father's name removed from voter registration in Florida, he died in 1992 yet he is still voting in every election.😡

That is interesting, what excuse do they give that his name can't be removed? Also, do you know that any votes have ever been cast in his name? That is verifiable voter fraud, and if government officials won't listen to you, maybe a TV, radio or newspaper reporter would...
Jul 12, 2019 14:11:29   #
trout23 wrote:
Yo Moe...great post!! Fantastic idea and solution!! Now, this might make me sound crazy, but why don’t you forward this info to our President? He might appreciate the input...but, he could already know your system and this might be part of his plan. But who could be an eye opener-you never can tell what the government knows.

P.s we ALL need that contact info and get involved. Trump 2020!

Thanks for the link Trout! Yes - we all need to get involved in a constructive way - rather than whining about perceived evils and orange hair, but haters gotta hate, I guess... Too bad they don't spend that much energy on positive things...

I like that Canadian system Moe outlined! I do think it would be a much better, more fraud-proof method, but you know, there are going to be the haters again complaining about "exclusion". There are a lot of people in this country who are for whatever reason, on total government subsistence. I'm not saying all are bad, many are seniors, disabled, etc, but are there always tax returns filed in these instances? The yearly update to voter eligibility would have to be included in their paperwork somewhere..?
Jul 12, 2019 10:25:12   #
shepherd wrote:
I still can't see the problem with showing identification when you vote. It is required in so many other every-day transactions! And if people are afraid that others are unable to get out to vote then they should work with their party to make sure eligible voters are set up to vote even tho they can't get to the polls, etc. I often wonder how many ghosts are standing in line to vote with me, too. How is that handled - whose responsibility is it to clear deceased people from the rolls. My folks were dedicated voters - never missed even a primary. But when they passed away I didn't notify anyone at the Election Board or wherever - who did?
I still can't see the problem with showing identif... (show quote)

Same here - showing an ID to vote is a no-brainer, and it's ridiculous that it is called discriminatory.

The counties/states are responsible for the voter rolls, not all do their updates the same or as often. We just saw in Georgia, I believe, that the Dem candidate Stacy Abrams blamed her loss partially on the purging of ineligible voters from their state's rolls. I believe she claimed it was being done to specifically hurt her, but it was a regular update. I'll have to look it up again, but she claimed that black voters were particularly targeted.
Most people probably don't think to inform the proper voting authority when a relative dies, but I believe that death records are one thing that is checked when updating. That's probably the easiest thing to check - it's the people who move or change names that are challenging...
Jul 12, 2019 09:49:27   #
1.6 million more registrations than eligible voters in L.A. county...!

This is ONE county in one state - granted, it is probably the most populous state, but this discrepancy exists in MANY counties throughout the country. Democrats whine about how discriminatory it is to clean up/correct the voter roles, but how is it discriminatory to removed deceased persons' names?? How can you claim discrimination when specific voters have not voted in many years worth of elections, and fail to respond to numerous attempts to contact them to update their information ?? All of these unverified registrations open up the probability that they can be used for voter fraud - why is it that it is mostly conservatives that want the rolls cleaned up, and liberals who want to leave it alone in the name of discrimination? Me thinks thou dost protest too much....? Why?

Dear Democrats - UPDATE - it is not the government's responsibility to hold people's hands and make sure they are eligible to vote.

VOTERS - If you are aware enough to want to vote in an election, there are many ways to get registered, and it is your responsibility to maintain valid and current registration - like if you move or change your name - nobody should have to baby-sit you to make sure you update your registration. Upcoming elections are usually in the news early enough to give you plenty of warning to make sure your registration is up to date.

There will be arguments that there are those who have difficulties because they are so remote, immobile because of age, income or location, and I'm not going to argue that there aren't a few of those, but voting in elections is an important responsibility. Voting requires thought and discernment based on information on the candidates on the ballot - in my mind, if you have the intellectual honesty and ability to decide what candidate you want to vote for, you have enough incentive to figure out how to place that vote. Do you have a vehicle, internet, phone, mail service? Any one of them would give one the ability to register and vote. If you honestly have none of those, I would wonder how you could be an informed voter...?
Again, voting is a responsibility to our country and our fellow citizens, and I believe it should be taken very seriously.
Jul 11, 2019 21:05:54   #
trout23 wrote:
I just read Julia's latest reply. It said nothing to me in reference to what the article was addressing. But, what do we really expect. That is the typical progressive lefty way of derailing a discussion. The thing I would like to point out, this is an old article - 2017 - just think of the additional discrepancies since that time in re: illegals and income taxes and just the illegal population count. Who knows what atrocities have occurred if they can't even put a number on how many illegals there are living in the country right now?
I just read Julia's latest reply. It said nothing... (show quote)

...classic distract and deflect...
Jul 11, 2019 20:44:33   #
Orillialovesto knit wrote:
For whatever reason I simply cannot get the hang of magic loop or long tail cast on. I have tried and tried and it's not working. I know so many of you love these methods and have tremendous success with them. I am a mess! I want to learn them and they will not come. I think maybe I will stick with my regular cast on, and use double point needles when there are too few stitches for my circulars. I really do have tears on my face. There is no joy in mudville tonight. Susan has struck out at the bat. Surely I am not the only knitter here who has no success in these areas. Perhaps I am. Off to dry my tears and knit something that I am familiar with. I'm not telling you this to create a stir. I have hit a wall and I just wanted to share that.
For whatever reason I simply cannot get the hang o... (show quote)

Oh no! Don't feel so bad, I'm sure there are more of us! I spent a few hours working on it, watching videos, reading hints - but my fingers just couldn't do it...

...I like double points... lol
Jul 10, 2019 18:44:48   #
LOL - some pretty scared, pretty desperate people out there - apparently...
Wonder what they are afraid of us finding out...?

Uh-oh - conservatives know how to find out the real story... lol
Jul 10, 2019 18:07:37   #
Runner Girl wrote:
Notice how quick Billy Boy was to deny any wrongdoing after the arrest of Epstein?? The flight logs don’t lie, and he’s listed on more than four flights in Epstein’s plane - and, to the island!!

...26 or 27 total flights, according to the flight logs - sometimes with Secret Service, sometimes not...
Jul 10, 2019 14:44:26   #
RookieRetiree wrote:
Someone posted that trump stoped being in Epstein’s crowd so he should be applauded. No, the responsible thing to do was to turn Epstein in the proper authorities. He did not do that. Could be he’s complicit and Epstein had evidence of such?

Yes, he should have turned him in, and did - at least for an assault. If he knew more, he should have said more.
First article that came up in my search:

There apparently were people who did know more however - why didn't they turn him in, I wonder...?
Jul 10, 2019 10:28:37   #
Very pretty - thanks for the link!
Jul 10, 2019 09:53:05   #
trout23 wrote:
Surprise surprise surprise .... Bill Clinton not telling the truth??? Will wonders never cease.

I didn't really want to start a new topic, but I also didn't want this to get buried in another topic. So, if someone has already posted it - I apologize and will take down this topic.

Bill Clinton 'not telling the truth' about Jeffrey Epstein, says investigative journalist who first revealed allegations in 2010
By Lukas Mikelionis | Fox News

Who could get implicated in Epstein sex trafficking case?
Investigative journalist Conchita Sarnoff said Monday that former President Bill Clinton isn’t telling the truth when he says he "knows nothing" of the alleged crimes of Jeffrey Epstein.

Sarnoff, who’s the executive director of Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking and the author of her book “Trafficking,” appeared on Fox News @ Night after an indictment alleging sex trafficking and sex trafficking conspiracy was unsealed Monday morning against Epstein, while Clinton's spokesman issued a statement denying knowledge of Epstein's alleged behavior.

Epstein, the wealthy and politically connected financier who pleaded not guilty during his initial appearance in a New York City federal court, is accused of preying on "dozens" of victims as young as 14.

Clinton, meanwhile, said in a statement that he “knows nothing” about the “terrible crimes,” insisting that he took “a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane” in 2002 and 2003 – while his Secret Service detail traveled with him at all times – and that he had only brief meetings with Epstein.

But Sarnoff, who first broke the Epstein story back in 2010, says the figure isn’t accurate, claiming that Clinton was a guest on Epstein’s planes many more times over a longer period.

“I know from the pilot logs and these are pilot logs that you know were written by different pilots and at different times that Clinton went, he was a guest of Epstein's 27 times,” she said, adding that “many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him and many times he did not.”

“Almost every time that Clinton's name is on the pilot logs there are underage girls there are initials and there are names of many many girls on that private plane.”

— Conchita Sarnoff
Sarnoff went on to say that she believes Clinton “is not telling the truth” about his ties to Epstein.

“I'm saying, sadly, that he is not telling the truth.”

— Conchita Sarnoff

“I'm saying, sadly, that he is not telling the truth,” she said. “First of all, Gerald Lefcourt, who was one of Epstein's attorneys back during the original arrest and the original investigation, wrote a letter which has been made public.”

She added: “In that letter, Gerald Lefcourt claims that Epstein was one of the original funders of Clinton Global Initiative. He gave President Clinton four million dollars, according to a source who knows a story about that.”

Sarnoff said she requested interviews with Clinton about the matter, but he "would not agree" to talk to her.
Surprise surprise surprise .... Bill Clinton not t... (show quote)

Thanks for posting it - it's worth sharing.
I remember seeing occasional pieces years ago about Willy's connection with Epstein, smiling pictures and all - the connection isn't arguable, but the media never seemed interested. I'm sure many of the pictures and articles of the past, and from the previous trial are mysteriously now hard to find...
Every time I read articles about the Clintons, their foundation and the "Global Initiative", I feel like I need a shower...
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