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I just got a large winder and really appreciate all the tips and reasons why it is better to pull from the outside. All this time I thought I was doing it wrong when pulling from the outside. thanks again for all the tips from everyone.
 
DorisAnn thank you for all these tips! Certainly do not think you are a know it all and appreciate your tips.
DorisAnn said:
I know this is long and I hope nobody thinks I am a know it all, I just want to share what I learned about yarn winders.

Before winding I place the unwound yarn in a tall container on the floor. If it is a center pull skein I pull from the center.
If it is not center pull I alternate pulling a few yards of yarn from the skein, then wind and pull a little more.
Always winding at a steady pace holding onto the yarn to control the tension.

When your cake is ready to remove, loosely roll the label and hold it atop the spindle so when you lift the yarn from the spindle you can slide the label inside the cake. Then thread a yarn needle with the loose end and run it, at an angle through the side out the top edge of the "cake". If you let the yarn end stick out the top a slight tug of that yarn tail will tighten and accent the strand you must pull to pull it back out again.

Please read the caution before you start to wind using this next method.

Yarn winders do not readily accommodate very small amounts of yarn. You need a fair amount for the "cake" to hold its shape. To resolve this issue you need two (2) empty toilet tissue rolls. I chose those because most of us have a steady supply of them.
Make a quarter inch cut on the edge of the first roll and place the loose end of the yard to be wound into that slash.
It holds the yarn like the notch on the spindle. You must do this first as you will not be able to do it when the roll is in place.
Place the roll on the spindle, with the slash holding the yarn at the bottom. The roll will probably be too big.
Flatten the second roll then fold it in half to create quarters. Slide the flattened, quartered roll between the spindle and the roll. This makes a "shim" and tightens the first roll to keep it from sliding around. Now thread the yarn strand through the yarn guides and slowly wind holding the yarn to control tension. With this method you can wind any small amount of yarn, then secure the end with the top edge stitch, as noted above, and write the yarn information on the roll. Also if the amount is small enough, and since the yarn winds at the bottom, you can turn the roll over and wind another color on the other end.

CAUTION:
When using a shim, you must wind slowly because winding rapidly creates centrifugal force. Centrifugal force will cause any shim to pull up and away which can then become a flying hazard. In my haste to try my idea I jammed a crochet hook between the spindle and the roll and started winding furiously.. Yep, the hook flew out the top, taking off like a rocket across the room narrowing missing my TV. Lesson learned with no injuries.

The advantage to center pull skeins was to prevent the yarn from rolling around when working with it and the disadvantage to center pulls skeins is they collapse into themselves and tangle as you deplete the yarn. I hate yarn barf. Since the yarn winder creates "cakes" which will stand in one place and do not roll around, I never work from the center of the "cake" as that will cause it to collapse into itself the same as a center pull skein. I found constant rewinding of collapsed yarn, will cause it to twist and the more often you rewind the tighter the twist.

PS: If you have not purchased one yet, and you use a lot of yarn, I suggest your buy the largest one your budget will afford. I now have 2 because I bought the first one I saw and it will only wind 4 ounces. I hate KNOTS and like to buy/wind big skeins without cutting the yarn so I now have one that will wind more that twice that amount.

Thank you for your patience I hope this helps someone.
 
Thank you for taking time to write this. Good advice.

Duh, re knitting from the outside of the cake - I was wasting a lot of energy being mad that they make the spindle on my ball winder so big that the whole cake quickly collapses and makes a mess that I was regretting buying the winder and was tempted to go back to my nostepinne.
 
Thank you for the info. The only one I have tried but didn't know how to get it work was the wrapping on the t-paper roll and using a 2nd to tighten it up.

This is one thing I found is a perfect wrapper for cakes when done. Found at Walmart around imported fruit to help prevent bruising and customers don't want it and neither does Walmart but I do and so do my knitting friends.
 

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Thanks, Doris Ann! I, along with many others, appreciate you taking the time to write all this out.... Very useful and informative for sure. I have been liking to pull from the center, so the cake does not jump all around, however, I am also getting very annoyed with the resulting mess at the end. So, think I will go back to knitting from the outside of the cake . Like another KPer, I use the fruit sleeves or cut off sections of old knee high nylons to hold cakes together. Thanks again for all your tips. :)
 
I know that it has been suggested to wind your yarn on a toilet tissue roll.

My question is doesn't that sort of defeat one of the purposes of winding it on the winder in the first place?

I have tried with the roll and without. I find that the yarn is more "relaxed" without the roll. The yarn has that extra space to fill in when I take it from the winder.

I do several cakes at a time and I thought it would be better for the yarn that way.
 
impatient knitter said:
Don't know if this will make sense to anyone on this particular thread, but it does conceren knots.

I used to use knots when I joined one skein/ball to another, and they weren't much of a problem until they started to come undone!

The only join I use NOW is to simply hold the tail of the "old" yarn together with the beginning of the "new" yarn, and knit with them together for 3 or 4 sts. Then, I drop the old yarn and keep knitting with the new. When I come back around, or across, to that spot again, I just snug up both ends of the yarn, and continue knitting. You won't be able to see or feel where they were joined, and you can weave in that old tail whenever you want to, hiding it under nearby sts as usual.

I find this method the easiest to follow, and maybe some of you will, too.
This does work well g, and like you advised me yesterday, I am going to loop those two yarns together, sort of like the Russian Join . I use the Russian Join most of the time, but haven't been able to make it work on sock yarn. ????
 
impatient knitter said:
Don't know if this will make sense to anyone on this particular thread, but it does conceren knots.

I used to use knots when I joined one skein/ball to another, and they weren't much of a problem until they started to come undone!

The only join I use NOW is to simply hold the tail of the "old" yarn together with the beginning of the "new" yarn, and knit with them together for 3 or 4 sts. Then, I drop the old yarn and keep knitting with the new. When I come back around, or across, to that spot again, I just snug up both ends of the yarn, and continue knitting. You won't be able to see or feel where they were joined, and you can weave in that old tail whenever you want to, hiding it under nearby sts as usual.

I find this method the easiest to follow, and maybe some of you will, too.
What about really super thick yarn how would you join it you can not do a Russian join on the blanket yarn
 
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mmrmein said:
I know that it has been suggested to wind your yarn on a toilet tissue roll.

My question is doesn't that sort of defeat one of the purposes of winding it on the winder in the first place?

I have tried with the roll and without. I find that the yarn is more "relaxed" without the roll. The yarn has that extra space to fill in when I take it from the winder.

I do several cakes at a time and I thought it would be better for the yarn that way.
I do not wind full skeins of yarn on a toilet tissue roll. I use the tissue roll as support to wind small left over amounts of yarn, considered to much to throw away but still too small to form a cake that will hold its shape without support. I can then write the pertinent information about the yarn such as Brand, color, dye lot, care instruction on the roll before storage.
 
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